[michiganjfrog]

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michiganjfrog,

I would agree with you too on this one.

The idea of a "4GB" at a very cheap price will trigger a lot of sales. People think they're getting a really good bargin when compared with the 4GB iPod's!

This gives them more competitive edge over other auctions because 4GB for the same price as a 2GB would definately look better for the buyer. I mean, why buy a 2GB player when you can get a 4GB for the same price right?

Right, but my point was, they're not just trying to achieve a competitive edge here, they're trying to make more money. I'm looking to buy a 2GB nano clone, and I've seen how the 4GB clones sell regularly for significantly more on eBay. So the signficant extra profit margin allows them to placate the "odd customer" (now growing in number thanks to sites like this) that finds out about the scam before 90 days, by giving them a refund (as low a refund as they can manage to shut the guy up).
Even if they gave FULL refunds to all complainants, guess what, they're still making more profit than if they were to sell them as 2GB players! And of course, more than if they were to sell them as the 1GB players (if not less) that they really are!

I think someone should make a write up in eBay about 'hacked players' and how to overcome them.

That's a fantastic idea! I would do it myself, but I'm not really an expert on the Nano clones, I only found out about them like 3 days ago! Would it be better for one of you more experienced guys to write an eBay guide on hacked 4GB players? Especially someone who got burned by one! (I'm trying to avoid getting burned myself but let me tell you, it ain't easy doing that and at the same time, being a cheapass who doesn't want to pay more from a more reputable source...)

It's unfortunate though that the majority of people that find this site and the mention of hacked players AFTER they've bought the player. It's only when you run into problems that you search the internet to find the cause, which is unfortunate.

I'm doing my part by occasionally emailing winners of 4GB Nano clones from sellers I know to be frauds, letting them know they most likely have a 4GB fake on their hands. I even sent a message to a buyer who left positive feedback about the player being a 4gb player, and not a fake. I asked him if he was so sure of that. He replies saying its 4GB if you do not "encode". I didn't know what he was talking about, I assume he meant transferring wav's instead of mp3's. I told him I didn't know of any Nano clones that look like the Nano and really have 4gb. I gave him the link to your site and wished him luck!