Sorry to hear that, but the more that people understand PAYPAL are as much in bed with the crooks as are EBAY, the better. You should have told PAYPAL you never received your player. So long as the seller didnt ship via online tracking, and I think most don't, you at least wouldn't have had to shell out $20 for an "inspection fee", or another $10 to ship the player (because you never received it, right? ;-). PAYPAL however, screws you out of the first $25US of your claim, even if you win. And your hopes of getting whatever's left depends on if your seller doesn't regularly empty his Paypal account.
I could rant a lot more against Paypal / Ebay for their lack of protection, because I currently bought an MP4 iPlatinum Nano clone from someone I'm over 75% sure is a scammer with no intention of sending the player to me. I'm currently trying to get Paypal to tell me if I will win AT ALL once the scammer sends me nothing, and its not looking good. Several days and only a canned form letter that doesn't answer my questions. Needless to say, I ain't going through with the deal. eBay will hit me with an UIS (unpaid item strike) but big deal.... you gotta be hit with two more within a certain period just to get suspended.
If eBay ever lets me edit my damn guide again (seem to be locked out of it), I'm going to add an elaborate section warning people about PAYPAL, cos I've seen WAY too many ignorant folk telling others how protected they'll be from these sellers if they only pay by Paypal..... people only find out when its too late. Then they eventually learn that not only did they get scammed by the sellers (usually out of Hong Kong), they also got scammed by eBay and scammed by Paypal. The only ones that may be on your side is the credit card companies...
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Originally Posted by mpj-mlj";p="
Hello all,
We have all been scammed by various sellers.
Many (if not all) used Paypal (Ebay owned) to pay for the purchase.
Paypal boasts about customer protection - both for buyer and seller.
Well, when it comes to these hacked players, Paypal protection is just about useless. Once a claim is filed, Paypal requires you to provide documentation from a third party source to support your claim. Now, unless you are in the computer industry or know someone that is, it will cost you a fee to have the MP4 unit inspected. In my case, the minimum charge from the place was $20.
I faxed the information to Paypal and after they reviewed it, the case was found in my favor against ebay seller "buy_lowest" Paypal account "mp4.world@gmail.com".
GREAT, I WON!!
Wait, there is more to read.....
I must return the item to Paypal on my dime. Also, the cost of having this thing inspected is not refundable.
Great protection there, Paypal!
Just so I have this straight, I have to invest approximately $30 to receive a refund of $41.21 to my paypal account. This is after Paypal has concluded that the seller was, in fact, a scammer.
So, I'll file this in my "you're stupid" file. I'll add the $20 spent on this and just accept that I paid $61.21 for a hacked 1 GIG player.
I will be closing my Paypal account. Credit card companies offer far superior buyer protection. I'll go that route from now on.
Sorry for the vent.
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