Thanks for the explanation dkjab, at least I now know how to check the REAL capacity, but as I say, I will not be risking getting these things from eBay anymore, they have been NO help to me whatsoever! Some might say that I was a mug getting caught 3 times in the first place :oops: . . . but NO MORE!! :evil:

Thanks to everyone on here who has helped me. xx

HERE WE HAVE ONE MORE GUFFY
They even make 30 and 60gb players!!!!!
so the ebay guy just a kid compare to this idiots
My friend got one

http://www.computercityinc.net/

OMG, will think of myself as lucky compared to your poor friend - although nobody should count themselves LUCKY to get what they paid for!! :evil:

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They listed them as 30GB harddrives, but the prices seems too good to be true. i'm sure a 30GB mini-harddrive costs much more than that.

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Hi,
would like to report midalap as another seller of hacked players. After some emails they finally admitted that their players are dodgy. Here the quote:
Obviously, I'll not take my feedback back.

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Add e-britain to the Blacklist!

Received an advertised '4GB', which after formatting became a 1GB player.

Their eBay store:
http://stores.ebay.com/Electronics-Britain

I can confirm e-britain is selling 1GB as 4GB.

Have e-mailed some of their other customers,
seems none have real 4GB.
I have expressed my concerns to e-britain, they
offered 5GBP refund seemingly to shut me up.
I accepted but told them I was going to give -ve
and they tried to negotiate further but refused to change the faulty description (which also wrongly states
from UK not HK).
e-bay customer support suggested filing paypal claim,
but this involves being willing to send it back.
I gave negative feedback, but it is swamped by
positives from people that do a functionality only
test, and/or are convinced by the 4GB sticker
and explorer/units own report. They'll get corrupt
files one day when they fill memory past 961MB.
Need repartitioning/low level format using RDiskUtility.

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I just found this site,lol was sent here by the BLown-z people on ebay to get the AMV convertor and after reading this stuff I checked my player and it too is just 1gb instead a 4gb player. :evil:
I am so pissed I can't see straight, I had all kind of problems trying to get the software to download files into the player,so I did what you all reccomended and reformated it. Ended up being a 1gb player not a 4gb.

Sent them a refund or else type of letter and one to ebay for fraud .

They may not which ones are hacked themselves,allthough I doubt it!

Price has to tell you something when buying these.
Good thing i paid with Paypal and credit card.. I may actually see a refund.

Crap this was going to be for the wife for Christmas too :cry:

Live and Learn :roll:
Thanks Guys
Gary

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E-britain is selling hacked mp3 players on ebay. I bought one and upon arrival it looked good but when loading music on it the files and file system corrupts. You end up with the music you put on it copying over files making them corrupt. The 4gb mp3 players are in reality 512mb. Upon contacting E-britain he will tell you to simply format it. You could do this over and over with the same result. I have opened a dispute thru ebay and paypal. I suggest you do the same if this seller has tried to con you too.

Thanks, Hooperjjoop. I am another one of E-BRITAIN's con-victims. I bought a 4GB player just a moment ago and now I am well worried... sigh.

I HAVE BEEN CONNED
 

:( I have been conned, I have just won a bit for 'mp4player with 4 gb shipping free' item was stated as being in UK. The Truth is item is in MACAW, and seller is UGoole. Once I paid by pay pal and realised the item was not in UK I became alarmed. However what can I do. I have emailed EBAY as this is a fraudlent claim, I have also emailed the seller, I am waiting for responses. I am now seriously concerned with what I have brought :evil: . Can anyone tell me how to check that has the storage it says it has. :? If it doesn't I will take on EBAY, UGOOLE and whoever else :x . I am a student on limited funds, with a child looking forward to getting an mp player for christmas. PLEASE HELP

because I will take them all on no matter what happens.

Thanks

Fiona890 :cry: :

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Fiona890 , you can't verify the real memory space on the player until you actually received the player and formatted it properly. But currently these players only support upto a maximum of 2GB memory space only.

What you can only do is wait until you received the player, verified the actual real memory space, before taking up the case with the seller. Either getting a full refund or partial refund.

Thanks. Looks like I'll be joining Fiona890! Nice to meet you all - though it would have been nicer if we had met under better circumstances, like BEFORE WE GOT STUNG. :]

Fiona890: I was able to check my MP4 memory
without "formatting it properly".
Use the RDiskUtility which is part of the MP3 player utilities 3.68, available from this site (top download) - or probably from the supplied disk under the guise of AMV convertor.
The format tab gives the hacked (false) memory size.
The partition tab gives the correct total disk size.
Verification:
Try copying sufficient avi files (say) to exceed the size given in the partition tab - probably 1GB methinks.
On the PC, try playing the start of each avi file.
You'll get a message indicating some files are corrupt.

Then e-mail the seller for a part refund and then give
negative feedback.

To reset the partition so that files don't get corrupted:
Run RDiskUtility partition tab with zero encrypted
partition. Then run format tab to give low level format.
This will give a 1GB player which is still a very
usable size.

The seller may offer to bribe you to withdraw the negative feedback, but we have a duty to warn
people of fraudulent sellers.

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THANK YOU !!!
THANK YOU !!!!

I was about to pay for 12 4GB (or i tought so) players when i discover this forum. I was about to send more than € 300 !! Thanks to you i have sended a mail to all the sellers and 1 minute after one of them send me a "eBay Unpaid Item Mutual Agreement. This seller is karagadget ". I still waiting for the other to responde, but i´m not worried if they leave negative feedback.

I´ll give this information to all the peolple i know

Thanks

ThankYou, That is great news normally people only findout after they buy their players.

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Add POWERSELLERTURBO to that list. He is selling the same junk.

In fairness to paragadget (not paraguest as listed in the above blacklist), there is not yet any proof of fraud.

Indeed their item descriptions state:
<QUOTE>
There are some mp3/mp4 sold online do not meet the capacity as stated. especially those stated with capacity of 1gb/2gb/4gb/8gb; ends up with less than half of the capacity. in order not to upset our customer, we have taken the trouble to test and make sure everyone of our units meet the capacity as stated!!
</QUOTE>

Not that they couldn't be lying but it seems unlikely they would want to draw attention to the problem if so.

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I think this list should be listed towards the top of this thread. That is how I always see things like this in forums for things like compatible software, etc.

Please add to the blacklist the ebay user: ALYCATE CO

Also, I think the list should also include ebay sellers who are reputable.

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Here is an updated list with appropriate changes.

mediabsolute
lcdguard
kcshophk
blown-z
bestmp4
chinadragonsell
inno_onlinestore
jeo-guy625
platinumteam01
sky_tower
mp3_exp
buy.mall
citipower
eshopwindow
jeanwaye
pars-digital
mars-digital
midalap
bitatbid
ugoogle
e-britain
computercityinc.net
newcomdigi
alycate co
powersellerturbo

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I have had success in getting a full refund from ugoogle today. In the quote are some of the email conversations I have had with him. The last was sent on Weds. I think it lit a bit of a fire under is butt hence the speedy reply. I'm up the creek for 2 christmas presents though. :(

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I might be a bit impatient but I'm waiting for someone from ADMIN to comment on my thoughts about the direct eBay listings on this site.

For those who couldn't be bothered digging through my first big post, I was simply saying it is a bit ironic (and hypocritical) that the blacklisted sellers we are all fuming over are being advertised on this site through the direct eBay listings.

Am I being too pedantic or does anyone else see an issue with this??

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And another one: david888228


My Fake Chipod 1GB in reality

Yeap add me to the list of people been ripped off. Checked the capacity today and sure enough its only one gig. :evil:

With private feedback leaving negitive feedback is no good at all. and currently none for sale. Im sure he will pop up again somewhere.

This is his paypal details:
Payment To: Yau Lee Cheung (The recipient of this payment is Non-US - Verified)
Seller's ID: david888228
Seller's Email: david888228@gmail.com

as at today his feedback score is 166 so there are at least another 180 odd customer out there he has ripped off. man that's FU#$D up.

I bought one of E-Britains ??? 4GB players. I threatened him/her with poor feedback and spreading the word etc etc and I got a full refund. I complained just after I bought it. Still, if I do still recieve it, the dog could do with a chew toy !:)

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Hello.

Like so many others I found this site after having problem with a 4GB player... Put in app 2.6GB of data and then the player got messed up (told me the files got corrupted etc). So i started google'in and found this superb site!

e-britain is the scam-seller in my case.
Im in dispute thru paypal right now, let's see how it goes.

Great site and merry Christmas! :)

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Another ebay seller for he blacklist
junglebookstore "eBay-lid: jungle.bookstore" <member>

sold me a hacked MP4 player said to be 4GB was only 1GB. Do not buy from this seller. At least he did send me %25 refund. He did not want his name listed on this forum...... bad luck, did it anyway :evil:

please send him lots of negative feedback, buy, do not pay and leave bad feedback.........
thanks :lol:

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Stoli...I think you have a VERY valid point on this issue. I am very new to this forum, so I can't say why ADMIN isn't addressing your concern. It SHOULD be a concern for any of us who have been burned by fake players. I don't know about anyone else, but I'm not wealthy enough to just piss my money away on fake crap. The site SHOULD NOT be helping them promote the fake crap in any way! Just my opinion for what it's worth.

I also want to add that the burn doesn't just happen with 4GB players because I got burned on a 2GB player that was really 256MB. It's one thing to pay for a 4GB player and still have 1 or 2GB that you can use, but what good is a 256MB player? Seriously!

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That's interesting swfx. I thought the problem was mainly with 4Gb and 2Gb players. However if it's also 1Gb players, there is potential that up to 50% of listings on ebay are of dodgy players when you take into account the number of sellers based out of China/HK. I guess it really depends on how unscrupulous the sellers are going to be.

Most of the cheap players are out of China/HK and it is very easy to switch out proper 1gb and 2gb player with modified units as they are so prevelant there. Thinking about it my father actually has been duped into buying a dodgy 512mb mp3 player and a dodgy laptop.
What troubles me is that he's no IT gumby, he's got a masters in Elec Eng AND he's been working there for the past 6 years!!

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I'm glad I'm not the only one who has a concern about the eBay listings.

Especially now knowing ANY mp3 player could have the possibility of being modified even the smaller memory units.

I don't impress upon anyone what they should be doing as this isn't my site, I'm just a guest.

However if they are trying to maintain the spirit of their website, "a ‘community’ aimed project" then is issue of the direct eBay listings is a serious one.

swfx, Stoli40, ....
My 2cents on the issue.
I became a member of MyMPxPlayer.org approx 7 months ago. Binh was running the thing on his own trying to answer as many questions as he could, maintain the web site, a full time job and raise a family with young kids. He originally started the site to support an on-line store he had and because he had a love for these players and saw a need for a site to provide support, tools etc.
When I joined I do not even think their were 2000 members.
As the players became more popular membership grew, the community grew and a lot of good stuff was being posted, the firmware and software library grew thanks to member uploads.
Around about August of this year MyMPxPlayers.com went over it's bandwidth allocation and Binh was smacked with a whopping bill of over $1600 (NZD) by GoDaddy.com and the site was taken off-line. For 2 weeks us addicts went into withdrawal and were saved when Binh forked out more money and the site came back on-line as MyMPxPlayer.org with a faster dedicated server at Webair.
I dont know about you but in the same position I would most likely have pulled the plug on it but Binh was committed to the site and the fact that it had grown proved that there was a need but if it was to continue he was going to need a bit of help paying the costs.
The PayPal donation system was setup and a handful of dedicated members donated what they could but membership was again on the up and once again bandwidth usage and costs were on the rise, from memory I think it was costing $200+ (USD) about $300- $350 (NZD) per month. In an attempt to bring the bandwidth down most of the downloads were moved off site to filesharing web sites. More money was invested to improve the site ram was doubled on the server to speed it up and membership continued to grow.
As more and more people were being ripped off with hacked players the Blacklist was set up to help warn buyers and the site had taken on a new direction. The savings made by moving downloads off site soon became insignificant as bandwidth continued to rise. Sponsers were added to the site, To encourage donors a player was given to the site for a donors draw which bought in a few more dollars and thankyou to all those that did donate you made a difference. The sad fact is people are not quick to donate thats life. Charities actually spend millions encouraging people to donate to their causes.
I agree with you the ebay ads on site are not my favourite and I cringe when I see 4 & 8 GB players listed but the couple of bucks they bring in per day make the difference between the community having what I believe is an invaluable resource for MP4 Player owners. The community now has a voice where they can speak out against these theives, people are banding together, knowledge is being shared. Although it is hard to gauge what is being accomplished I see posts by members who are getting most of their money back, others are finding out the truth before they buy their 4GB players.
This is only going to grow and personally I hope that eBay is eventually held accountable for it's lack of interest in protecting it's members.
Binh is trying to filter out all the hacked players from the sponser ads but it is inevitable that some will slip through and I can understand the frustration that members feel when they see players advertised by the very sellers that ripped them off.
Whilst like you I would rather see them gone how about coming up with some alternate ideas on how to help offset the running costs of the site instead of slamming Binh for doing what he can to keep the site running.
Personally I kind of like the irony that eBay is contributing to the running of a web site that will hopefully help hold them accountable for their lack of moral conscience and greed.
I also note with interest that most of the names I see bagging Binh, the site and the ads are not on the donors list :(

You had to throw down the gaunlet, didn't you? Now you made me go and donate. I'm a firm believer in "putting my money where my mouth is." ;) I don't want to turn this into a debate because you are very right that Binh is doing what he can to keep the site up. I know this expense first hand as I have been involved in many similar ventures throughout my career in IT. For the record, I wasn't 'bagging' on anyone and like Stoli, I am just a guest here. I just think maybe we should find some better sponsors. IMO, it would make better sense for mympxplayer.org to be a 'safe' place to buy mpx players. I also stated in my other post that it would be great to have a 'whitelist' of safe eBay sellers to get mpx players from. After being burned by a scammer, it would be nice to have some 'friends' to tell you where you can buy from and not get scammed. That's all I have to add.

swfx, :twisted: Excellent my Evil Plan is working :twisted:
Thankyou for donating though and Binh will possibly get up me for posting this in the first place but I needed to vent my spleen. I did not mean to attack anyone personally just maybe shead light on the other side of the story.

re White List I agree it is a great idea but I am not sure how you keep a White List white. How do you keep the supposedly honest ones honest. What stops a crook from becoming a member and listing himself on the White List, A) for financial gain and B) to discredit the site.

Anyhow the fight goes on, as some one said to me the other day "Have a Cool Yule" and thanks again for the donation.

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Ok, firstly I agree with swfx in that I don't want this turn into a mud slinging match about running the site etc as I am really in no position to have input on how things should be run or administered.

I appreciate you explaining the background of the site as it gives a clear picture of the true intentions behind the scenes and sufficiently answers the question that I posed.

In summary as I understand it is that you need the income generated from the eBay store to keep the site afloat. When you have enough income from other sources you can stop the direct linking making the site 100% reliable in the resources you provide.

That is all I really need as an answer.

However on a personal note I am dissapointed that you considered my questions as a 'bagging' of the admin or the site.
At no time was I interesting in discrediting the efforts paticulary since the information helped me in recovering my money.

I merely wanted to clear up the one anomaly in what would otherwise be a perfect website.

Think about it, if you saw a cause that you really wanted to help out and get involved with, but were unsure about what they were really trying to do because of one thing, would you be parting with money before you asked some questions?

Anyway, I don't wish to push this any further except to say be careful of what you write if your asking for help, especially when you are representing other people's interest. You don't know who is on the other side.

Otherwise a big Thank You to the Admin team. Hopefully there will be better ways coming to ensure the future financial viablility of the site.

Have a fun and safe Christmas.

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Add me to the list of those hornswoggled by e-britain. Bought a 4GB player, and received a 1GB player hacked to appear as if it's got 4GB capacity.

Sigh.

I'm still hoping to get them to give me a full refund. I'm not willing to keep this thing at full price, and a mere GBP5 (apx US$10?) refund CERTAINLY doesn't make up the difference between 1GB and 4GB!

And I paid US$60 for my piece of junk.

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Just joined this forum after seeing a link on ebay.

Earlier in December I bought a 4GB MP4 player from mp4.wholesales, I sent some emails with questions but never heard back from him. I finally got an email last week saying that the product was shipped weeks ago, immediately followed by a refund to my Paypal account saying that there was a problem with the Chinese mail in sending the package.

As if that wasn't enough, the guy file an unpaid item strike. Apparently China has been producing high quality crack in addition to MP4 players, because I don't know what this guy is on (and his feedback has been getting torn to shreds in the last few days).

So just say no to mp4.wholesales

So here's my question. Who here has purchased a black 4GB player from someone and had it actually WORK correctly, and what was their screen name so I can buy from them too? I'm also looking to buy 5-12 of those at one time.

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Add myself to the list of thoes conned by e-britan! I paid 34GPB, for a 4gig - got a 1gig - and he said he would refund 5GPB!! Ha what a freakin joke! I've filed this w/ ebay as well and got the "we'll investigate it message" I'll hold my breath!....Happy Birthday Jesus! :cry:

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Ebay seller: soelectron (from Hong Kong)
Bought a '4GB' mp4 player and shortly after getting it, I got a 'disk error' message. When I used the partition tool, it came up as a 2 GB capacity. So I popped the back and checked the memory chip, which turned out to be a Samsung 634 K9LAG08U0M which is a 2GB chip.

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hello all,

I just thought I would let you all know that the mp3/4 player arrived today.. and no suprise it is rubbish. I have put some songs on it and even though they do not appear to be on it the computer thinks the mp3/4 player is full!!

I have emailed the seller Ugoole (and borrowed some words from other people. Hope no one minds)

The mp3/4 player arrived today and is not what the product you sold me. I have done some research into your Mp4 players and it is my belief that you have sent me a fraudulant 4Gb players that only have a 1gb or 2gb chipset. Furthermore, it does not work. You have given me in writing that you will be providing REAL 4Gb players, and it is on ebay for all to see. FULL refund into my PayPal account. I will NOT accept a partial refund as you have offered other people. I have contacted ebay about your fradulent activity and will be happy to take the matter further. This is a disgrace and you should be ashamed of yourself selling faulty goods that do not meet the specification made.
I expect a reply within 2 working days or I will contact paypal and let every ebay customer know what you are selling

Disgusted
Fiona890

We will wait and see what reply I get.

I have contacted ebay but they were not helpful at all.
I have previously emailed the seller to ask exactly where they were located and recieved a reply that was all ???
If this matter is not rectified I intend to go to paypal too.

I have never seen such a pile of junk in all my life.

Oh well I will keep fighting.

Happy New Year to everyone and lets hope we can stop these people



Fiona 890 :)

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Add ebay seller buy_lowest to the blacklist.

I bought a 4GIG player from them and it is only 1GIG.

I have filed dispute with paypal.

Good luck to all!