The Blacklist

xnetbug · #61 (**permalink**) 14th Nov 2006, 9:04 am

well, 1gb will do the trick but isn't worth buying from there, i could buy a 1gb for that price in local stores here. Is it at least stereo?

hazel7797 · #62 (**permalink**) 15th Nov 2006, 7:04 am

Yes, that's the way I look at it. I have vowed I will never buy another of these players from ebay, only from reputable online dealers like Uxcell.

In fact I have just ordered two for Christmas gifts from them to replace the rubbish I was lumbered with from eBay.

Will keep you posted on how it goes.

PS I think it's in stereo (well, at least I have sound coming through from BOTH earbuds)

xnetbug · #63 (**permalink**) 15th Nov 2006, 8:14 am

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Originally Posted by hazel7797";p=&quot

PS I think it's in stereo (well, at least I have sound coming through from BOTH earbuds)

It's stereo if it has two sepparate sound channels. For example a guitar is playing in the left channel and another guitar in the right. Actually you hear the 2 guitars in both channels but one is louder in one channel and the other guitar is louder in the other.

If you want to know more -> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stereophonic_sound

Thanks for the help

hazel7797 · #64 (**permalink**) 17th Nov 2006, 12:48 am

Thanks xnetbug

Will check it out. For anybody's information, these are the con merchants I bought my 3 'hacked' players from:

midalap
bidatbid
ugoole

The last one that I was waiting for (in dispute) was ugoole

I got an e-mail today, which went like this:

hi
actually if you buy a player of 1GB, it will also cost you so much.
is it possible that we refund you 5GBP and you keep the item?
thanks

I accepted as I really can't be bothered to go on 'ad infinitum', like I said, I just won't be buying any more from FleaBay!!

taylhis · #65 (**permalink**) 20th Nov 2006, 2:07 pm

newcomdigi on eBay is selling 1GB units as 2GB. Will foolw up with results of disputes.

hazel7797 · #66 (**permalink**) 21st Nov 2006, 1:04 am

Update on ugoole, they refunded the £5, BUT PayPal took 60p out of it for charges!!! OUCH! :evil:

dkjab · #67 (**permalink**) 21st Nov 2006, 5:05 am

Just FYI, lcdguard is now trading as "buy.mall!".

I managed to get a hacked player - supposed to be 4GByte, was actually 1GByte. I opened the case and checked the Samsung chip against their database, and bingo it was 1Gbyte (1Gx8). After using the partition encryption and decryption tool in the disk utilities supplied with the player, it now shows the real size of 1GByte. I contacted the seller and asked for a partial refund as I dont want to waste more money sending the unit back. I await their response. If I get no joy, EBay and Paypal will have a complaint filed against the seller.

Nobody produces a real 4GByte player yet (in the cloned Nano style) - this I now know from investigating the issue with various sources. 32Gbit flash chips are VERY expensive and thats why you dont see REAL 4GByte players in the Nano clone style.

Jon.
"If it seems too good to be true - It is."

hazel7797 · #68 (**permalink**) 21st Nov 2006, 10:51 am

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Originally Posted by dkjab";p=&quot

"If it seems too good to be true - It is."

I totally agree Jon! I'm not having a lot of luck with these players though. After the eBay fiasco I decided NEVER to buy them from there again, so I ordered two (for Christmas presents) from Uxcell, they arrived today and whilst one is fine, the other won't charge up or switch on, so I suppose I will now have another to return (at least you can do that with a reputable firm like Uxcell). :roll:

dkjab · #69 (**permalink**) 22nd Nov 2006, 3:29 am

I agree Hazel. At least you get a bit more protection with sellers like Uxcell and VisualLand. I have a couple of different players from VL and they are all good, supplied as described and with warranty you know will actually be there if you need it.

EBay is a good source for many things, but like many forms of retail, there are sharks out there. VL & Uxcell are "more expensive" than some EBay sellers, but sometimes you actually do get what you pay for - eg. aftersales support and warranties.

Sellers like lcdguard are the ones ruining EBay for genuine sellers. lcdguard for instance not only advertises 4GB nano-clone players when none exist yet, but charges 20quid postage and puts 2quid (31HKD) of stamps on the package. Obviously its to make the sale price look less and still make a profit, but for those who dont read the postage charges, it really is misleading, because EBay states that it will not address issues relating to "Postal Charge disagreements". Nice.

hazel7797 · #70 (**permalink**) 22nd Nov 2006, 4:27 am

Yes, also (in this country) you are not entitled to a refund of postage and packing paid, only the cost of the item. So when they charge £20 to £40 (and I have seen these amounts charged), they have probably made a profit on the wholesale price of the items in the first place. :evil: