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mediabsolute (eBay.com)
sells hacked 2GB players as 4GB players and won't own up to it
When I told her about the memory being hacked she said:
and my reply:
her reply:
my final reply:

PhantomX,

Thanks for sharing this.
Have you placed negative feedback for that seller?

I think if we're going to really warn people, it's best to make sure we place NEGATIVE FEEDBACK. This puts emphasis on the fact.

If you're scared they'll place negative feedback back, can you not contact eBay and ask them to remove it as it was unfair feedback? I know we can on NZ's auction site: TradeMe.co.nz. This is to stop people firing negative feedback at you for no reason but because you play negative feedback on theirs.

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lcdguard (ebay.com) aka Crystal Wong aka Wong Wai Ming
sells hacked 2GB players as 4GB players and won't own up to it

Confronted with the findings on this wonderfull forum, he hasted to pay me back through paypal, because quote "refund made, we do not sell to buyer who do not trust us, thanks."
Costs me twice the conversion GBP-Euro though.
The night before his ebay shop was emptied, later his account suspended. If that was due to my/other buyer's complaint procedures @ ebay, or by his own hands, don't know.
Will leave bad feedback, for what it is worth, after ebay closes the non-selling complaint.

I dont think his account was suspended at all. All he did is canceled his own account because everybody was on to his scams. That red lettering that say's "NO LONGER A REGISTERED USER" means he closed his account. But he will just simply make a different eBay screen name and be back in business. He probably already is as of now. lol You might even buy off him again without even knowing it until after you buy something and see his real name again in your Paypal transaction page info.

Absolutely correct, he can start back up again and maybe using another paypal account with a different name so you wouldnt even come to know after all. But just wondering, do you think if he creates another ID that it would come up under the ID history? unless if he goes about creating and hooking up the ebay id to a brand spankin' new paypal account.

Nope! The only way it shows up under id history is if he just changed his username then it shows id history for the account showing all and any id's ever used. But if you simply close the account and signup again then your id history so far will only show this first screen name that he signed up with. Thats why they do and dont care about the bad feedback. Because of course showing 50 or 100 positive feedback he really doesnt want to start over. But in the end when the heat starts rising it's the only choice they have.

ahh i see.. that sucks they should have ID history based on paypal accounts i think.

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Ya they should figure something out but I think the reason they dont do that is because not everyone that has a Paypal account uses eBay also. Some just use Paypal for their website payment processor and never did the ebay scene before. But I would imagine the could just link the ones that do somehow you know.

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Just to let everyone know about lcdguard A.K.A kcshophk is now trading under the name of (roll on the drums please) bestmp4
He/she has got a shop full of various sized mp4 players and no doubt the hacked 4gb ones included.

They can run but they cant hide.

And if you a reading this post lcdguard or whatever you want to call yourself you might wonder why i have such an interest in your dealings - well thats because you ripped me off and still havn't refunded my money,so until i get my money back that you promised you would send i will keep following and reporting on your crooked dealings. :evil:

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Thank you for sharing that info.

:evil:

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Ebay seller going by Blown-z is also selling 2gb players and passing them off as 4gb. I emailed him before purchasing to make sure they were indeed 4gb and he assured me they were. We have exchanged emails for a month now and I have given up on it. He has since made his feed back private. So I cannot even leave a comment to let others know. Also would like to say I love this site. I have been able to completely customize my Nanolike, thanks everybody.

millrat1030

Glad you like the site and found it useful. It's there for everyone to share.

Thanks also for letting us know about your eBay seller too.

The more we get the better. Apity you couldn't play feedback to warn others though.....

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Best MP4? thats who i bought mine off!!

my response; Upon initially being happy with the MP4 player, I have now discovered that it stores 2GB of music rather than the 4GB you described. In other words you have missold me a product which I have paid good money for. I am angry that you have exploited me and many others in this way and will certainly warn your potential customers what a lying, cheating scumbag you are. And no a refund or exchange will not be acceptable, Id rather you stop trading completly.
You sir, are an absolute disgrace to Ebay


His her response; We have received some of our buyers that the player size is wrong. Now we are contacting to our supplier to state the situation to them and ask for them why it is happened. Besides, we will take legal action to claim the money back from our supplier. First thing we should do is to collect more evidence to prove that our supplier is cheating in the memory size of the player. Owing to our careless in checking the truthness of the player, we will first give the partial refund to you, then we will claim this money from our supplier. We apologize for any inconvenience caused.

The price for 2GB is 32.99 pounds, thus we will give you 7 pounds back, is it OK ? please send email to us.


I thought bugger it, Ill take the seven quid and learn from the experience!!

i think this thread should be made into a sticky, it'll help a lot of people.

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Make them famous, put negative feedback and put a link to various sites taht mention the 'hacked' players.

Suggestion.
You should have a feature like this.
EBAY BLACKLIST
and put all the scammers here and have it linked to other sites as well.
believe me it will have a huge impact on the ebay dealers sooner that you might think.
and also open one like an
HONEST SELLERS
and have a few trusted sites advertised here.

all this effort will bring the loads of complaints down to a low percentage and save webspace also.
I see throughout this forum, that there are a lot of complaints and
they are very hard to follow up since they are all over the place.
You should have something like the Complaints BOX where ppl can unload all kinds of complaints about various things, this way it should decrease the amount of time to reply and help all those individuals with their
problems. I see a lot of ppl in needs with firmware and hardware related occurances,strifes and problems and it really should be under one thread and a couple of related sub threads.
cheers

I got had by these guys too!!! I paid for a 2GB player and got a 1GB ....Dammit I bought it when mympxplayer.org was down =[ theyre called bestmp4
i think its more like bestmp4ripoff man... this cheeses me off I think a big sign is when the seller has a low feedback number..... Next time im only buying from 1000+ if this helps their email is regestered at gmail.com as c kenneth wong. I don't really mind it cuz t cost me 50 bucks but its the lie that really bugs me, oh yea one more thing!!! I cant seem to be able to get the firmware off this thing and change it so that it reads 1GB on windows....it says it is write locked?? can someone help me I wanna hack this bugger.

hey I just found out bestmp4 changed ID name to chinadragonsell..... spread the word!

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Josefridilla,

Sorry to hear you got ripped off. I hope you managed to place negative feedback on the guy.

I have opened a new forum category now.

It's called "Bad Traders/Black List" so anyone who has had an incidence with a bad trader or got ripped off, post it here:

http://www.mympxplayer.org/viewforum.php?f=15


Let's try to spread the word so no one else gets ripped off by these guys.

kewl thread you da men! lol

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Add inno_onlinestore to the list.

Bought a 4 gig and files got corrupted beyond the 2 gig point. Formatting the memory revealed only 2 gigs.

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Tried the link in IE and Firefox. but get a strange page, like the forumindex with "bad sellers/blacklist" on top, then "board announcements", and "topics", but no black list topic?

Que

You're right, there is no black list topic at the moment as it's only just created.

You are most welcome to start a thread in that section of the forum of a bad trader. Just starte a new thread and make the subject the person's username/trading name.

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Hey Binh- Welcome back to the 'net. I gave you up for dead. Glad you're back! This is a great resource and I'm glad we all didn't lose it...

Perspective : Keep in mind that what we are all dealing with here are communists. Not a put down, just a fact. Communists do not respect private property, patents, copyrights, or our intellectual property rights.
Ever wonder why you can buy a dvd of MIB, or the Matrix for 99 cents plus $15 shipping?
It's because they are pirates who steal our content, then sell it back to us for pennies + shipping.
Don't think for a moment that the manufacturer's don't know what they are doing. It's just a way to play into a hot American market, and siphon off some strong American dollars into their country.
Our only defense is knowledge. We can beat them at their own game. Keep them honest with our knowledge of what they are up to.
We have the thing they want: our money. Keep them honest the way we are. There is no free lunch. Demand your money back, file complaints, and report here the sellers who switch names. Hunt them down and expose them here. Keep it up guys. You're doin great. There are now several Ebay chinese merchants on the run from you guys. Track them....
If they give you resistance, send them the article I wrote here on Wikipedia :

http://www.s1mp3.org/wiki/index.php/...e#The_solution
or here:
http://www.mympxplayer.org/viewtopic.php?t=839
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Josefridilla,

If you help just one guy avoid that seller, you've done your job. Thanks for spreading the word on him. We should track our own sellers and post back here when they change their screen name. Just add new name below the old one.
To help you with the write protect thing - try long pressing the rec button, or menu button. What player / firmware is it ?

I

That's a quick conclusion. Most illegal downloads/uploads are made by americans, so is this an exponent of american capitalism now, and thus every american is a stealing crook too? Nooo...
By the way, the chinese government is communist, the people do not care, food on the table is the main thing for the lot.

ugh how can u guys complain about getting a 2gb nano look alike for the prices u paid what do the real ones go for like 200 or w/e well i paid for 4gb and its a 1gb, i would have been extreamly happy to get a 2gb one ... hopefully blown-z refunds me some of my money or exchanges me with a 2gb one ...

I guess you just like to get lied to alot zeppy. I don't, I mean i got lied and cheated if even if i bought it for $5 dollars I would get mad because they not only lie to me they lie to thousands of people Im lucky I knew about before I resold or gave to my loved ones. ITS THE LIE THAT PISSES ME OFF. besides you look like a eSeller in eBuyer's clothing .... =\ ha hey guys I got antoher suspicious ebayer ripping people off ----jeo_guy625---
spread the word!! this guy has blocked access to his feedback page.

chinadragonsell (bestmp4)
jeo_guy625
Blown-z
mediabsolute

soo does any one have an actual 4GB nano look alike? i mean is there really some out there and if so could u give me some info on where u got it , thanks

also yes blown-z is a scammer, im trying to email him i did get one response saying it may have a defected chip or may have got installed with wrong chip

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platinumteam01 on ebay is selling the hacked players. I was so happy at first to get my player, and now I am really angry and have filed a paypal claim for full refund. How do i fix the size now? i used the hp tool but it still formatted at 4gb.

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Ok secondly, the record function doesnt work, it shuts down when i click on it. , how can I fix this, new firmware file?

I also paid £43

The sellers feedback is here
http://feedback.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayIS...=STRK:MEWA:SFS

My purchase is here

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...MEWA:IT&ih=016

I also got a hacked 4GB (2GB) player from Sky_tower,
of ebay.com.au
email sky_tower@126.com,
postal details:
To Wai Ming
Tai Yuen Est
Tai PO NT
Hong Kong

He denied there was any problem,
i told him to send me another 2GB player if he as no real 4GB players (so at least i get a total of 4GB)

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Hi All,

This is my first post so I hope I've done it correctly!

Ebay seller mp3_exp is selling hacked 4Gb Nano clones on ebay.co.uk.

Unfortunately I only discovered this forum when my "4Gb" player was already in the post!

It turned out to be only 2Gb (and I already had one of those).

I paid 39GBP and after reading this forum I challenged this con artist to send me a player that actually had 4Gb. His response was to offer a refund of a measly 8GBP.

Evenutually, after threatening to invoke the Ebay/Paypal dispute procedure, I agreed a refund of 11GBP meaning I got a 2Gb player for 28GBP which ain't too bad.

What astounds me is that this seller has a feedback rating of 98.7%.

I've calculated that he's selling 15 to 20 hacked 4Gb chipods every working DAY.

It would appear that for every buyer that realises the scam and complains there are about 19 who don't and give him positive feedback!

No wonder they don't give a toss and carry on regardless!

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I Believe That LCDGUARD :twisted: is now traiding under the name on ebay as BUY.MALL! :twisted:

I hope this prevents other people from spending top dollar on a player that is half the size or less

citipower sell hacked mp4 players on Ebay. Bought a 4GB was really only 2GB. Emailed them to tell them, want me to post it back so they can send a 4GB one back but i declined as i dont think there is such a thing(4GB). Left negitive feedback telling of hacked players they want me to remove, buts there no way these guys are con artists.

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No friends... stop searching... Here, in Colombia in all the sites sell this shit... I bought one... This will no finish...

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Ebay Member:- Buy.Mall!

Is Selling 1GB Players as 4GB Players.

It is also selling 1GB & 2GB players as well. I wonder how much memory they have in them?

If 4GB = 1GB then you can only assume 2GB = 500MB and 1GB = 250MB

Hopefully get some money back as I have filled a dispute with Pay Pal.

Any advice about Pay Pal Disputes?

Thanks

eshopwindow on ebay sells 1Gb hacked to 8Gb

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3 spoofed 4gb .. really 107 108 mb gay! ... jeanwaye << beat the crap out of this guy ... i filed 3 paypal complaints. and more peopel are buying from him soi should get my money back if not always pay with credit card and charge it back! .. lol.. l8r .. damn spoofer.

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update: he atleast refunded me ... he has 60 feedback and only one other person complained... maybe the other people dont know that they got spoofed ones? .. or maybe i was just unlucky ... since he claims to not be aware of the problem...