Re: Anybody who personally bought a hacked player from blown
 

And here is what I got back (not from Meg):

So what we can see?

1. Somebody still reads those postal mails, which is good :)

2. The eBay support team definitely cannot do their job. Could you please go to eBay site, click on "advanced search", enter the item number "200045606198" in the approriate field, check the "Completed listings only" checkbox, and find the item? I can find it. Why the support team cannot do it? Don't they know about "completed listings only" checkbox?

3. The rest of email is just full of sh1t. The only suggestions they had were that I made a mistake, or provided a wrong item number. Probably it is just generic eBay attitude to buyers, who knows?

And that's my reply:

Usually I hate government involvement into business relationship (because usually it hurts more than protects), but probably this is the case when we really need it.

Re: Anybody who personally bought a hacked player from blown
 

Got a PM from blown-z on this forum. He claimed that he did not know anything about the memory problems with their players. Then he claimed that the supplier sold them as "4 gigabits", and 4Gb means gigabits :)

And he changed the description. Look on it, have fun:

What would you say?

I bought mine about two weeks ago.

No disclaimer then about gigabits.

2Gb player.... yup 512MB (actually 476MB...) PINK -- for my girlfriend. Fudge!

Let me in on this class action thingamajig you've got going on. This guy told me to go google gigabit, 2048/8=256MB, not 512MB. What a douche.

Re: Anybody who personally bought a hacked player from blown
 

I would say he is getting desperate to keep the complainers of his back, but admits the players are hacked. He makes a statement now that they are hacked indeed, (why show 32 gigabits if they only hold 4 gigabits) but by this statement in the ad, his ass is covered.

Quote Blown-z:
This product has four gigabits of internal memory; however, the memory will register as thirty-two gigabits. The manufacturer programmed the device so that the memory will register as thirty two gigabits when read by an external device such as a PC or other memory reading device.

Blown-z, ever wondered why these are programmed to show as 32 gigabits???? You can say you weren't aware of the problem, but it is obviously that you lie, since you advertised with GB for long, and now use Gb, and come up with this ridiculous 32 Gb explanation. You only made all your feedback private, to keep others from seeing the main complaint: hacked memory, and to hide the advertisements, which all showed 4 GB, right?

Re: Anybody who personally bought a hacked player from blown
 

I see a new disclaimer. Why cant these dirty sellers just put the proper size in their title description(s). They are counting on some people not reading everything and then using that as a safety net. That disclaimer is still full of BS. I wrote to Meg Whitman.. lets see how they handle it.

this is the reply i got when sending to the CEO not even meg it was Customer Support the retards that solve everything with the fraud and saftey team link ok this is BS they dodge the question and continue to repeat the same crap request his info and call the seller hmmm i have called him 50 times it just rings then voice mail i also rote them that to god i hate ebay



Thank you for writing eBay in regard to the problem regarding an item
that you are experiencing.

Please accept my apology for the delay in sending the response.

I have read the email that you have written, I understand your
frustration regarding the same and I also apologize for the
inconvenience that has caused you using eBay.

Please understand that significantly Not as Described process helps
buyers communicate and resolve issues quickly when a transaction problem
arises. Sometimes buyers find that traditional means of communication
(email and telephone) are not working, so this process offers an
alternative. The process also makes it easier for both buyers and
sellers to track the status of a dispute.

For more information about the Item Not Received or Significantly Not as
Described process, go to:

http://pages.ebay.com/help/tp/inr-snad-process.html

It is my pleasure to assist you. Thank you for choosing eBay.

Sincerely,
Mitch B

eBay Customer Support

Original Message Excluded:
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Changed my paypal dispute to a claim Sun night. Mon morning, I had several emails from paypal. I had two cases, one for each player. Both cases had been decided in my favor..Yea Paypal!. I got two partial refunds from blown-z. Like to have seen his face when paypal took these out of his account. Also had an email from blown-z. I had sent him one asking him if he had forgotten about me, and telling him that I hadn't forgotten about him :) His reply: "how can we help you"? duh! he must have less memory than his players. Anyway, now I've got two nice players for about $20 each plus shipping,,,I can enjoy them better now......Still going to keep after ebay about my complaint on him. Got to stop people like this!

That is ok. Such replies will be the best proof for attorney generals/senators/congresspeople that eBay really is unable/does not care to do their job, and we need government involvement.

Ugh. So now blown-z's gotten smart and put a disclaimer in his auctions. Things like this sicken me. Now there's even less hope because people who buy from him most likely will have no clue what he means by the disclaimer, buy the product anyway, and basically be screwed after that. All blown-z has to do is point out the disclaimer if the buyer complains and he gets to keep all his ill-gotten money. I can't stand it that they get away with this and eBay does absolutely NOTHING! I'm seriously thinking about boycotting eBay for awhile; that's how annoyed I am with them.

Re: Anybody who personally bought a hacked player from blown
 

:evil: I too have made purchases from the ass hole known as blown_Z. I won 4 auctions on e-bay. The first two on the 10thof dec. I finally got them on the 18th and they were junk. Yhe first one had two cracks in the LCD screen. The other had 2 screws laying in the bottom of the box that had apparently fallen out of the unit. Where the screws went was stripped out with the plastic on the screws. He sucks at communication, no phone number listing in blaine, MN for him. First offer he gave me was to send me new screws and a new lcd screen. i refused and wanted new products. To me, they looked like manufacturer rejects. The second offer was to refund my money but he would not specify weather or not he would include the almost 26 dollars i had in shipping. SAD facts, i was dumb enough to buy two more before i got the first two. I decided to send the other two back and for him to make sure they were new like the listing said and to look at them carefully before he shipped them out. I want on the band wagon for the lawsuit. he is buying rejects and sendin them out. Dont know about the gbs yet bought 2-2gb, 1-4gb and 1-1gb. I am sick to my stomach over this. Someone will have to tell me how to check what i have if i ever get them. Will never buy from him again and going to report to e-bay and pay-pal...he will get bad feedback as well. I noticed if you leave him bad feedback he does the same in defense.. I say we get the bastard. Any ideas.. let me know exactly what you need from me for the lawsuit....Thanks Happy Holidays without jams for the cruise...

Re: Anybody who personally bought a hacked player from blown
 

hi i won and paid for the 4gb player 3 days ago before i found out in disgust and heartbreak of the truth of it! first,how do i check how big the drive is? should i refuse the package? i emailed them last night to say i found out about it and that many many others have disclosed that its compasity is false and misrepresented! and want them to cancel my payment and not send it "otherwise"! etc. i feel sick to my stomach and freakin frustrated that i seem to always make the wrong decisions like this purchase! any chance that it could be the full 4 gigs? anyone heard anyone say that they had the full 4gb? eeek!

Godchild13, check the topic here, it has all the answers for you, unfortunatly the chip does not support memory over 2 GB. You were probably sold a 2 Gb (gigabit, rather then gigabyte= gigabit x 8. A chance you got a half or 1 gigabyte, so the seller can say he even gave you more then he advertised with, because 2 Gb is 256 MB at most.
Topic: http://www.mympxplayer.org/christmas-vp15958.html#15958

Re: Anybody who personally bought a hacked player from blown
 

Im the seller blown-z on ebay. As you can see im a fairly small seller just kind of learning the curves to ebay and importing from china. I have not done a hole lot of business with china until this year. We did import a lot of these players in from china for the holiday season. As most of you know there is a lot to learn as we are still doing. We imported a lot of these players by boat. I would say enough to last us through the holiday season. Most of you didnt know any information about these players until getting into them. The same goes for us. Bought a product and introduced it to the public just like the other 1000's that are listed on ebay. When one hops on the site and sees 1500+ 4Gb players for sale you would just think its really 4gig. Well until you really start getting complaints you dont realize that your supplier cheated you. I did the best i could to educate my buyers on how to work the players so i provided a link to this website with every order before even ordering these players. After doing more research after getting complaints we changed our ad again to make the public knowledgable of what he or she is getting. If the buyer is not happy after reading the auction we always offer a refund. If the buyer is not happy after using the player we offer a refund as well. I know a lot buyers on here did not know there was a problem with the player until recently(same for us). We are working with everyone on this problem. If you feel your item is not as described please email me and i will take care of it. I will try my best to answer any questions on this website as well.

Blown-Z,

Thank you for your refund this morning. It was greatly appericated. The Pink MP3 player was for my girlfriend and after discovering what I discovered I had to run out and buy a real iPod for her. 512MB won't cut it for a techie geek girl (HOT!)

Anyways, I understand you too did not know the players were hacked, that's the fault of the Chinese programmers. However, I did disagree with how you tried to "educate" me on how GB/Gb works. To this date, no one has ever sold an MP3 player in Gigabits.

Infact, the only company ever to operate in "Bits" was Nintendo. Remember the Nintendo 64 and how the games were advertised in Megabits while Sony said "We can stuff 700 MegaBYTES" into a game disc for our Playstation. Yup.

The first MP3 player I ever owned was the first MP3 player to ever exist -- the Diamond Rio PMP300. It had 32 Megabytes of memory. Diamond could've said it provided 256 Megabits of memory, but they did not.

My best advice to you is to unhack all the players and sell them for what they actually are. People will still buy them because they're great little iPod clones, you have nothing to fear. I bet you got these players for <$20US anyways, so it's not like you have anything to lose, especially when shipping is around ~$12 and it actually costs you $4-6 if you're actually in the United States, as you claim you are.

I hope you have a Merry Christmas and an excellent holiday and I hope this generous, giving, spiritius time of the year offers you a moment to reflect on your business practices and how many children/friends/mom/dad/girlfriends/boyfriends/wifes/husbands/grandparents will feel when they try to load 2GB of music on their "2Gb" player and it doesn't work.

Just imagine all the people that will be hurt.

Also, I wanted to point out that you are at least clever with your titles. You said "2Gb Mp3 Mp4", that's clever because the "uninformed" buyer might think you're a person who doesn't capitalize words in succession and therefor would assume that the player was infact two gigabytes. Sneaky, sneaky.

Re: Anybody who personally bought a hacked player from blown
 

I think if you were in the least bit sincere or remotely concerned about this problem you would start listing your players in MB or GB based on the memory chips true size. It is also very easy to restore the chips to reading their true size, something an honest trader would take the time to do.

Re: Anybody who personally bought a hacked player from blown
 

Blown-z Dont send Item #200061329617 if you do it better be a real 2gb or i will make your life a living hell, i will report you to every institution i can think of, i will report you to apple, the FBI, ebay, and get a full refund through paypal, so dont send the item and give me a full refund the easy way or i will get it the hard way and at the same time screw you over and kill your bullshit scam ebay business. i made a big mistake that i didnt check forums like these before submitting a payment, thank god the payment is through paypal so i can get every cent back, im actually thinking of getting a refund and buying a new mp4 player from uxcell.com

g-dogg (ebay username gergesa28)

g-dogg, Don't forget the IRS a good tax audit can be very theraputic.

Re: Anybody who personally bought a hacked player from blown
 

gergesa28,
We submitted a refund to your account. Please check it

Re: Anybody who personally bought a hacked player from blown
 

blown-z: I just sent you some email via eBay about a player that I just received from you. It originally reported itself to Windows as having 1GB of memory, but after filling it up with songs, anything over about 200MB was not playable. I just re-formatted the player with FAT, and it is now reporting 233MB. :(

Blown-Z (powersellerturbo), My opinion is that you shouldn't have been so quick to try to shut people up when they pointed the problem out to you. That site you redirected people to was just a load of crap. You know people don't buy mp3 players based on a big B or little b as you tried to state. Furthermore, you were proven wrong with that theory as the players were hacked to show an amount of space that didnt exist. Screen captures were sent to you.

I personally have dealt with China suppliers of other items inthe past. Let me give you a heads up... They (Chinese) will try to rape all of your money and not give a damn what they send you and try to turn it around that YOU, the buyer, did something wrong. They were raised to be sneaky.

On another note, I did receive a response back from the Office of Meg Whitman.. they said they will most definitely change the way you list auctions. You will soon have to pick exactly what size you are listing so that thee is no confusion later on. So for instance.. the $Gb you list would have to be listed in the 1GB category. We all know that had they been listed as 1GB, your profit margin would be very small. I already looked into mp3/mp4 from china.. not worth it in the long run the way electronic prices fall.

Re: Anybody who personally bought a hacked player from blown
 

jsevinsk,
Email me at supremesolutions@comcast.net Ill take care of the problem.

rippedofbypowersellerturb,

Yeah i hear ya on that one. I have sent money to china and not got anything at all:( Its very difficult to sell on ebay. One you compete with the whole world. Then second you risk all your money to only make a few bucks. The gigabit deal was our supplier telling us they are not gigabyte but gigabit. I didnt know much about them. Then after i google the conversion i guess it made sence so we changed our ad to Gb for gigabit. I would think after my inventory is gone i will not be selling anything memory related.

Well I better get a refund before your inventory is gone because you are still continuing to lie and avoid your buyers who have found you out. I have sent you numerous emails, left you negative feedback, filed 3 disputes against you but yet you still do not respond. I have sent you a Money order for these item #'s:
200057188275
200057188225
200057185985

I will not withdraw the negative feedback nor close the disputes unless you have refunded me my 151 dollars total. It has also been 14 days since I have emailed you the MO. It does not take that long to get there.

Re: Anybody who personally bought a hacked player from blown
 

Thank God I didn't buy an MP4 player from Blown-Z. From what I've read elsewhere, one of his unhappy buyers is about to organize a class action lawsuit against him and encouraging other unhappy buyers to come on board. When people say they will report a seller to the police, they won't really get anywhere. But once people start talking class action suits, you know they're serious.

Re: Anybody who personally bought a hacked player from blown
 

Blown-Z

I have started the process to withdraw negative feedback. Please do the same for me!

Re: Anybody who personally bought a hacked player from blown
 

macdre007,

We didnt get any payments from you. It could have got lost in the holiday mail. Please cancel your payment and if your payment shows ill mark it return to sender.

kenton420
If we sent you a form all you should have to do is agree. If we didnt then ill check it in our email

SoupTaco
If you are aware of other buyers that didnt get a refund or partial refund on another forum would you post the link so we can take care of them as well

Thanks

You better hope what you're saying is true. I have decided to follow your advice and am sending a refund request tomarrow. It's a good thing I kept my receipt, but I hope you are telling the truth when you say you did not receive my MO.

Re: Anybody who personally bought a hacked player from blown
 

Blown-z is still looking at a suspension from eBay from the incredibly vague wording on the MP4 auctions. The auction titles are listed as "4Gb" as opposed to "4GB", never mind the fact that 99% of buyers will not recognize that there's a major difference between the two, and blown-z is completely aware of this. The need for him to list the title in gigabits is as necessary as someone listing the size of a pair of shoes on eBay in centimeters instead of inches. Its unecessary, and its a blatantly deceptive move by blown-z.

At the VERY BOTTOM of the auction, there's a blurb about how the MP4 player memory is listed in gigabits, and how to convert it in your head. If this guy wasn't a shady seller, he would just put the actual storage size IN PLAIN SIGHT in megs or in gigs, so people would immediately know what they were getting (put 512mb of storage at the top of the auction).

If he was just trying to make sure his auctions showed up in searches for a "4GB Player", he could just title it "512 Mb Player not 4GB". That in itself is misleading for searches, but at least people would immediately know they aren't getting 4 gigs of memory. I'm not moved by attempts to refund the people that are threatening to report him (that's self preservation, not having a loving heart). For every one person refunded, there seems to be 50 more that won't get what they expected, and he knows this, otherwise his titles and descriptions wouldn't be so vague and misleading. If he doesn't revise the listings, eBay will almost certainly shut his account down. eBay isn't trying to get sucked into a lawsuit over deceptive sales tactics.

Hey Blown-Z, can you PLEASE withdraw negative feedback for me. Search your e-mail. I tried to do the form on eBay again but it said I've already done it.

Please also check My Messages on eBay, that might have a link to it. PLEASE DO THIS.

Re: Anybody who personally bought a hacked player from blown
 

first,id like to thank Que for the links to learn how to find the "truth"! secondly,i found that the brutal truth was that my 4gb player was only 475mb! OUCHHHHH! ive been tryin to contact blown-z for a week or so with no reply! if your redaiung this blown-z,please contact me! ive sent you another message tonight! yall wish me hope cuz this sucks!

i tried to contact blown-z to cancel order 2 weeks ago yet it still came just today! so i guess we have to go thru the process of getting it first cuz i myself couldnt get a reply otherwise! i asked to cancel my payment and cancel delivery but it still came! i pray to god that the embarrasment i have gone thru in giving this failse 4gb playeri that didnt come after i paid for it on the 15th by christmas! and just came today,13days later!,that i will in deed be refunded imediatly! ill say this semi-seriously but what about the mental anguish/pain and suffering incurred reguarding this disaster!

Re: Anybody who personally bought a hacked player from blown
 

Add me to the list of eBayers to get scammed by these so called 4gig players. I actually bought 4 of these from various sellers including blown-z. I had planned for all to be gifts.
Other sellers were powersellerturbo (yes, I think it is the same person as blown-z), buy lowest, and jcl0924.
The player from jcl0924 was advertised as 2gig - I am not sure if it is real as I gave it as a gift prior to reading here.
The player from powersellerturbo (item#270069570558) was advertised as 4gig - only to be less than 500meg. I ended up filing a dispute with paypal and he refunded me the price and I sent unit back on my dime (wasn't thrilled about that).
The player from blown-z (item# 200059748108) advertised as 4gig - only to be less than 500meg - go figure.
I opened a dispute with paypal and have yet to hear from blown-z. I plan to escalate the dispute to a claim due to the lack of communication from blown-z. I tried both ebay messaging and paypal dispute console. I have all contact info and plan on contacting the local police as others have done. Perhaps after enough complaints, they may take action.
The player from buy lowest has yet to arrive but (item#330063115801), it is the one that looks just like an ipod and claims 4gig. I won't hold my breath. I will file a claim with paypal if it is not though.

I do hope to hear from blown-z regarding this. If you frequent this site, my username here is the same as ebay.

Good luck all!

by the way...my first post i submitted here i stated that i had paid for the 4gb player 3days prior to my posting date here of dec 21st but in fact i paid for it on the 15th! anyway.................

Re: Anybody who personally bought a hacked player from blown
 

MPJ-MLJ:
I just ordered one of those players from jcl0924.

Player on Ebay:Ebay# 170063150608

I'll let you and everyone know if it is legit.

Sadly, the packaging looks exactly the same as the 2 confirmed hacked players I received. Same box, charger, etc. Just a different looking player.

Remember - don't just plug it in and check properties in Windows. That is what I did with the first one. Problems began after loading 500 meg.

Good luck!

anyone know exactly how to get the refund? ive tried emailing them but after amny emails thruout the last couple weeks,all i got was today that says to read the enitre page of this document that was sent! wich i think was upsetting ,myself! very condescending i feel!

Sir please make sure your emailing me at the correct email. Ill send you a PM

Re: Anybody who personally bought a hacked player from blown
 

I have actually received a couple of emails from blown-z (Supreme Solutions).
I had requested that all communications should take place via paypal's dispute center but, I guess I should be happy that there is any communication at all.
The first email simply requested that I send it back to Supreme Solutions, along with instructions on how to operate it. I found this part of the email interesting:
Apparently most all files end up becoming partial files once the player has more than 474Meg.

My patience is growing short with this. I will give them until tomorrow afternoon to resolve this. If not, I will escalate to a claim with Paypal and I will accept nothing less than a full refund and, since this is fraud, I will insist on a pre-paid return mailer from Supreme Solutions. I will also pursue any other legal options afforded to me.

jcl0924
 

MPJ-MLJ:

I received the MP3 Player from jcl0924 and yes, it is 1GB with a 2GB sticker on it. I just contacted the seller and I'm going to see where this leads. I gave the seller 24hrs too respond or I'll start the complaint process.

I'm hoping that they are victims as well.

Re: Anybody who personally bought a hacked player from blown
 

Blown-Z, I'd like you to know that I sent a refund request for my money order today, although I did have to include 12 dollars which I wasn't so thrilled about. I have decided to keep the dispute open just in case I do not get my refund and it turned out that that money order was cashed. It better not have been cashed or I will not close the disputes and you will be getting 3 strikes.

Besides that...there is something very fishy about powersellerturbo and blown-z. I think they might be the same person. They both reside in Anoka, MN, although their PO Box number is different. Anyone willing to investigate further into this?

Re: Anybody who personally bought a hacked player from blown
 

Howdy y'all
Doesn't it really suck to have to find a community just for the sake of having to deal with bad sellers? I too have been dupped by a 4 G-bit player from Blown-z. I am going to use this place to also relay messages to him:

Blown-Z,
My wife (hotmama2375) was another one of your buyers from Ebay that has received a 4 G-bit player, thinking it was a GB player. At first we wanted to give you the benefit of the doubt but after reading at least a dozen posts from multiple websites of unhappy customers and seeing your misleading ads still running, I have no doubt that you are fully aware of the misleading nature of your sales.
I would like to request one of two things: AN ACTUAL 2 GIGABYTE Mp3/MP4 player or a full refund of our money. I would prefer to get the unit as I really like it, but I am sure I can find them elsewhere from reputable dealers if need be.
So then, please let me know which way you would prefer to handle this; sending the player or sending our money back. I am allowing you 3 days to reply to this message to either mine or my wife’s email or through ebay’s PM system.
If no response is received on or about Jan 4th 2007 a formal complaint will be filled with ebay, paypal, and we will gladly join the many people who are starting to organize a legal action claim against Supreme Solutions.
I truly hope that we can come to a peaceable resolution to this problem without the need to follow less amicable paths.

THIS MESSAGE IS BEING SENT VIA EBAY’S QUESTIONS SYSTEM, SENT DIRECTLY TO SUPREMESOLUTIONS@COMCAST.NET AND POSTED ON MYMPXPALYER.ORG.

EDIT: As of 5:49 pm on the 31st, Blown-Z has refunded my money. I thank you all and him for following the right action. I wish that he would learn from this and stop misleading people.
Blown, if you read this, please do the right thing, I have seen pictures of your new granddaughter (found googling your name) and I hope you learn for her sake.