"What a great success" I feel good about this.

[steveandali62]

Hi,

I sent an email to a seller on ebay listing a 4GB MP3/MP4 player, I informed him of the scam and this website I also asked him if he could tell me the type of flash chip in his players and the code on it. He did this and it was a Hynix chip with a code for a 1GB chip. I sent him a picture of this chip from the Hynix website and its corresponding memory compacity.

He was shocked by my findings and closed down his listing for the player, GREAT!!. I feel quite good that someone actualy took this serious enough to take this action.

On the downside I contacted a buyer that was buying a hell of a lot of these players on ebay, it turns out he was re-selling them back on ebay for a small profit. I told him about the scam and that his 4GB players were more than likely hacked. His reply was he had so many that he could'nt check all of them, and that he would carry on selling them. I will get back to you on the sellers name.

Anyway this is what happens on ebay, after you have sent abouth 5 to 6 messages on ebay you get blocked and cannot send anymore for about 24 hrs. for some reason ebay says this is for security reasons. what makes me laugh is that they stop you doing good, but ebay dont stop people doing bad like the scum who sell these hacked Nano clones, it makes you sick!!

By for now.

[daveislander]

Very good result indeed!! If the other seller is English he should be easier to target because we have the Law on our side,, and anyone knowingly selling fraudulant players can and will be reported to both trading standards and the Police.. Perhaps if you find his details and post them here, there are a few of us who would gladly err.. offer to buy one as long as its a 'genuine' 4GIG etc...
Very well done!
Dave

[Que]

Wow, good to hear there are still sellers that really care. Well done. I wrote some too, one replied he was shocked, asked me how he could check the players, showed him the links to the topics about the hacks and how to retrieve real memory size, and he changed his name on ebay. Others did not respond. Once I bought a 4 gigabyte player. payed promptly, but annoyed the seller so much with questions about the true size he did not even sent the player, but gave me my money back, because he "would not sell to people who don't trust us". He changed his shop's name promptly also.

[steveandali62]

The only people that can stop this massive scam is Ebay, trouble is they dont give a toss. Its money in the bank for them. Ebay is so big they can do what they like. Ebay needs to policed better and customers care should be first priority.

[hypmovator]

Hi Everyone, like most of you if not all of you I have been scammed by Ugoole when I bought 2 x fake MP4's. I also sent countless emails to Ugoole and got the same bullshit replys offering partial refunds etc. Ebay and paypal are a complete waste of space and do nothing to help the victims. They only care about the profits they are making.

I decided to call the Sun newspaper and email them asking for their help in exposing this multi-million pound scam.

I ask all of you who have been scammed to join me and send you story to Charlie Ray - Consumer editor at the SUN and if enough of us do it they will investigate and not only expose the scammers like ugoole but also the tossers at ebay and paypal who ignore our please for help and just send automated emails that just add to the insult.

Ebay have a duty to protect us and they are getting away with murder. Let's all rise up and hit them where it hurts in their profits through bad exposure.

I have included my email I sent to the SUN below. Also remember the SUN are linked to SKY TV and if Sky get involved we could get the message around the world.

www.the-sun.co.uk

talkback@the-sun.co.uk

Subject: china £multi-million electronics scam on ebay! thousands of UK customers being ripped off every week

FAO: Charles Ray

Dear Charles

I am writing to you to ask for your help in exposing a scam on ebay in the form of fake memory hacked MP4’s that UK as well as global buyers are being ripped off every minute of everyday and no matter how many complaints are sent to ebay and their financial processing arm paypal they just turn a blind eye and will not protect consumers because they are making so much money in fees.

MY STORY

I have been using ebay and paypal for a number of years and as usual went on ebay on the 9th December to buy some last minute presents for my children. I specifically searched for MP4 players listed in the UK where the items location was listed as being in the UK because I wanted the items delivered in time for xmas.

I purchased 2 x 4gb MP4’s from an ebay seller called ugoole specifically because the item and seller were based in Preston UK (Fraud #1 – Actually based in China). The item never arrived in time for xmas, then over xmas I received an email from another ebayer warning of the scam and providing me with info on how to check my MP4 when it arrived and various sites that are trying to stop people getting ripped off as ebay who have been aware of the scam for a number of months will do nothing about it and continues to allow the crooks to sell there fake goods on ebay. Money and profit comes first for ebay – customers mean nothing to them.

My 2 x 4gb MP4’s arrived and as instructed I inspected the mp4’s and found that both were in fact only 1gb – the memory chip had been hacked to make it appear to the average buyer with not software or hardware experience or knowledge as a genuine 4gb MP4.

I complained to the seller, ebay and paypal and still I have 2 fake mp4’s and no resolution as after calling paypal today to complain once again I have been told that I the victim of the fraud must prove that the item is fake at my expense. The seller or crook ugoole can just wait and hope that like most people the ripped off buyer just gives up and puts it down to experience. I have lost £61.01 so far and to continue with the process of claiming my money back I need to get a third party independent electronics company to inspect the mp4’s and put in writing on a company letterhead the mp4’s are in only <1gb fake mp4’s which I will have to pay for and then if paypal agrees with my 3rd party I will then have to send the mp4 back to china not preston Uk registered once again at my expense.

The guy I spoke to at Paypal is called Chris (wouldn’t give surname) Senior agent European services 0870 307191 ext 4063. He promised to look into it. But will not confirm if he makes any progress hiding behind the data protection act.

This is happening to thousands of people.

THE BIGGER PICTURE

If you would be kind enough to visit the sites below you will find the full story and you will discover that thousands have been ripped off and even more are continuing to be ripped off and ebay and paypal will do nothing to stop it.

You would think that a company as large as ebay who make billions could put a call centre together to help victims of fraud, instead all the offer is an automated email service which is a total waste of time and resolves nothing.

I hope a paper with as much clout as yours could help others before they get ripped off. All you need to do is go on ebay do a search on mp4 players from buyers supposedly in the uk and you will see the scale of the sales and the rip offs. If you were to run and article in your paper and request anyone who has bought a mp4 on ebay to email you with their true feedback you will be surprised at how many respond. If you also showed the ebayers how to check their mp4 player properly you will also expose many thousands more who did not even know they had been ripped off.

China is having a huge impact on our lives now and in the future and consumers are going to continue to get ripped off unless someone like the sun or news of the world exposes these crooks.

PLEASE CHECK OUT THE FOLLOWING SITES FOR MORE BACKGROUND INFO AND TO SEE THR TRUE SCALE OF THESE CRIMES

http://www.xbox0.co.uk/

http://reviews.ebay.co.uk/The-Offici...00000002547758

THERE ARE LOTS OF LINKS WITHIN THE SITES ABOVE WITH MORE INFO. IF YOU CHECK OUT THE BLACKLIST ON XBOX0.CO.UK YOU WILL BE ABLE TO VIEW THE NEGATIVE FEEDBACK ALL SAYING THE SAME THING YET EBAY AND PAYPAL WON’T ACT TO STOP THE CHINESE MP4 MAFIA.

Check out the amount of sales and x by average order £30-35 = £multi-millions

Please call me if you would like to discuss further.

I am quite happy to send fake mp4’s to you if you like to verify my claims.

I hope you will take up this case and stop UK citizens being ripped off.

Kind Regards

hypmovator

[steveandali62]

HI, hypmovator

I must say this is fantastic work, I will be contacting Charles at THE SUN as well.

What your doing is great, keep up the good work. One way or the other these con men need to be stopped and eBay & Paypal should be held accountable for allowing this multi-million pound scam to continue.

Bye for now