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dillon533 29th Dec 2006 5:33 am

gcheung on ebay blacklisted
 
Having purchased 2 players from this man, Who's account said he was based in leighton buzzard. But when the products arrived from hong kong, I was a touch worried the players transpired to be half the advertised size 2gb instead of 4gb & one set of headphones doesn't work properly. I haven't left any feed back yet and i'm about to dispute it with paypal and ebay. Fortunatly i have a spare set of headphones. I shall keep you inform of the proportion of refund we recieve.
In the mean time buy your clone from someone else.

dillon533 29th Dec 2006 6:34 am

my paypal dispute
 
this is what i sent through paypal just now.

Having purchased this mp4 player from you which was sold as 4GB storage capacity. The actual capacity of the chipset(samsung 631) is only 2GB. I would be willing to forward photographic evidence of this and the fact that there is a 4GB sticker on the back of the case. I will also send evidence of the capacity as shown by windows. I have had the player checked by a fully qualified consultant developer employed by microsoft who would be more than happy confirm all the above in writing I look forward to your prompt reply.

Hopefully all will be well

dillon533 2nd Jan 2007 7:21 am

Re: gcheung on ebay blacklisted
 
i recieved this email today:


All the players are purchased from the manufactory as 4GB and we totally don't know what's happening here. Please send the item back to the following address: Cheung's , PO Box 198, Tsuen Wan Post Office, Tsuen Wan, N.T., Hong Kong. So that we can further check with the manufactory. And once we received your returned item, we will provide a full refund on your payment. Kindly advise us the tracking number once you have arranged your returned shipment. Thank you

I've replied with this:
In response to your email, it is my understanding that due to the incorrect description of the item and also the erroneous stated location of the item.I am under no obligation to return it to Hong Kong, but will gadly return it to the location stated in the auction of Leighton Buzzard U.K

lattesurf 2nd Jan 2007 7:54 am

dillon533 , haha!! i guess the seller would end up refunding you without you even sending the player back.

Good on ya!

dillon533 3rd Jan 2007 8:37 am

Re: gcheung on ebay blacklisted
 
i've just recieved this email from the seller:

Please note that if you won't send the item back, how can we further checked the item for the mentioned problem?! Please kindly arrange your item to send it back and I once receive the item, I will provide the full refund plus the actual shipping cost (marked on the envelope) to you.

Can anyone offer me any assistance. I have a Qualified individual who is willing to clarify on their own headed note paper that the player is below the specification claimed for it. Also i have the original auction information claiming that the location is Leighton Buzzard U.K not Hong Kong. Surely they should forward the shipping costs in advance to Hong Kong as I'm willing to post it to the specified location in the auction.

lattesurf 3rd Jan 2007 12:09 pm

dillon533 , currently there are possibly 2 options to do.

1, send the player back with registered mail, chose the option that lets you receive the postage received notification.
However, you need the seller to agree to the postage method and to refund you the purchase price + postage to you + return postage.

2, refuse postage until the seller refunds all the amount (3 mentioned above). Escalate the dispute to a paypal claim, and forward the supporting evidence to paypal. And state that you will not send the player to any other countries besides UK, since the ad states the item was from UK.

Personally i would prefer with option 2. As with your strong supporting evidence, paypal might end up refunding your money with you not having to post the item back. The crucial point would be the false item location and your evidence.

dillon533 4th Jan 2007 7:28 am

Re: gcheung on ebay blacklisted
 
i think i'll take option 2. To be honest i think the players are great i just don't appreciate being ripped off. What i want to happen is 50% of the money to be refunded on both the players i purchased as i recieved 50% of the capacity which i don't believe is an outrageous request, considering i've been mis-led not only the seller but also claims by ebay and paypal that their users are automatically protected from fraud.Which i find quite dis-heartening as 99.9%
of people are honest and buying and selling in good faith. Anyhow i shall keep you all informed of my progress. Thanks for the help

dillon533 17th Jan 2007 4:08 am

Re: gcheung on ebay blacklisted
 
well finally got back to dealing with the complaint. (studying for my comptia)
Last night we escalated the claim via paypal on both players. Rather than messing about we said we'd accept a 50% refund as the players where 50% of the stated capacity. So we ended up with two players for £15.00 and £14.50. The refund was in the paypal account by this morning.
Overall I'm incredibly happy with the player. I also found it hand a pitch shift function so i can use it in conjuction with my decks.
Just as a final note thanks to lattesurf for the advice
Cheers

Strummin'Ronin 17th Jan 2007 11:39 am

Re: gcheung on ebay blacklisted
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dillon533";p=&quot (Post 17506)
... address: Cheung's , PO Box 198, Tsuen Wan Post Office, Tsuen Wan, N.T., Hong Kong.

That's excellent news, because my seller's (e-britain) has a PO Box at the same post office:

Denny Chen, Wong Shuk Hing
Po Box 1225
Tsuen Wan Post Office
Hong Kong

Denny CHEN and WONG Shuk Hing may be partners, but they're surely partners in crime.

AlbertaSatellite 17th Jan 2007 8:33 pm

Re: gcheung on ebay blacklisted
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dillon533";p=&quot (Post 17506)
Please send the item back to the following address: Cheung's , PO Box 198, Tsuen Wan Post Office, Tsuen Wan, N.T., Hong Kong.

Here is a similar return address from 4GB scam MP4 player from e-britain:
Denny Chen
Wong Shuk Hing
P.O. Box 1225
Tsuen Wan Post Office
Hong Kong

I get this feeling that there is a large group of individuals with a bunch of Ebay accounts, all working together on these scams from an office in Hong Kong.

dillon533 20th Jan 2007 3:53 am

Re: gcheung on ebay blacklisted
 
typical got a 50% refund on both players. The one i kept for myself has just died. Can't seem to get it to charge either through the socket or with usb.

dillon533 23rd Jan 2007 6:36 am

Re: gcheung on ebay blacklisted
 
i know this isn't really the section for it, but i can reccommend that you don't let this type of player run out of battery completly as its a right pain in the bum to recharge.

koala 23rd Jan 2007 9:41 am

hi, I made same deal with this seller, advertised 4GB, but only 2GB is available, when I try to load more, destroyed files and directories apears and it is not possible to delete them. maybe you have some idea, what to do? Except this, player is quite good. I inform seller about this an he wants me to send item back. Player looks directly like here

lattesurf 23rd Jan 2007 9:58 am

koala , you can solve the files and directory problem by formatting your player. The guide is here http://www.mympxplayer.org/how-to-re...ck-vt2400.html

koala 23rd Jan 2007 10:51 am

lattersurf: Thanks, I find this and apply, and now it works OK, yes memory is not 4GB, only 2GB, but good is it works. Thanks

dillon533 25th Jan 2007 3:53 am

Re: gcheung on ebay blacklisted
 
thats the exact same player that i brought. if they're asking you to send it back to hong kong don't because it states the items location as being in leighton buzzard. if you paid with paypal escalate the claim.
i did this and got a 50% refund as the player was half the stated capacity.


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