Re: Negotiating with the sellers
 

Thanks azza87, much much appreciated for your informative reply. I would not be a victim if I found this site before bidding. I mean the seller has a pretty high percentile of positive feedback afterall so I didn't read much into the negative feedback probably like what most of the bidders are doing right now as we speak. With so many items on auction and so many people bidding for them, they must be legit... at least thats what I thought...

Boy was I wrong. And I didn't know there are loop holes in the ebay/paypal systems. And worse, I didn't know there are people who knowingly abuse those loopholes. I learned my lesson and learned it very well.

Since I already admitted that I would ship the item back at my own cost on the claim, and I am fair so I will give paypal the benefit of the doubt and see what happens. If it will cost me more than return shipping to get my full refund, or more time than the 50 days from my initial purchase (allowing 10 days to send the dispute to cc in writing), then I will go ahead and dispute it with my cc.

Thanks again.

Re: Negotiating with the sellers
 

Hi !

French guy here... sorry for my bad "english" !!!

So... m pyplyer must be a 8Gb player... anb finally... it's a 2Gb player... :evil:

I use paypal to negotiating with the sellers :

me :
"Hello,
I received my player, so, the true memory capacity of my player isn't 8Gb but 2Gb !!!
This player was hacked !
This item isn't being as described, so, i ask for a full refund."

the seller :
"return to me to get repalcement
when you send back item to me pls give me the tracking no. so i can give you replacement/reapir early .
only return mp4,don't need earphone ,usb and charger by post office
understand your request and pls return the item with your full name, item no,
posting address and paypal email address inside the boxes and resend to
cheung fung ngor
hse no 18g, monte villa, 6 monte path kau to shan, shatin nt
Hong Kong
after returning pls send your full name, item no, posting address, paypal email address and trucking no from your registered mail in your next email
we will arrang the repost/repair after receiving your return player asap
don't forget the tracking no.
cheers"

I don't want return him.... the shipping cost are :shock:

so... can i hope a full refund ? What can i answer ???

thanks !

Re: Negotiating with the sellers
 

Negotiating with the sellers,why Negotiating ,no need ,no need.
In Chinese,peole can make mistake,but can't make a same mistake for twice or more.once you can say "by accident",twice you can say "carelessness",third i say "you are on purpose "
other I like German for they are principles

Hello !

The seller want to return me 10 eur for a partial refund... So... i don't think it's the cost of a 2Go player !
What do you think about that ?
I think 20 eur is ok for a 2 Go player... so...

Re: Negotiating with the sellers
 

Jelly Jam, here are a couple of options. One, is to find prices on 2gb player and deduct that from the total you paid and ask the rest refunded. The other is since you got a player 1/4 the size advertised you should get 75% of price refunded.

I think both of these are reasonable requests that the seller is going to look stupid arguing with if he wants to pretend it was an honest mistake. Personally, I like option 2 since the seller knew what he was selling.


Hope this helps.

Thanx booboo773 !

So I should ask to the seller 30 eur ... lol I think 20 eur is good... and he wants give me 10 eur...
I answer him last once and I close the paypal's dispute...

Re: Negotiating with the sellers
 

If you are willing to take 20 by all means, take what you are comfortable and happy with. The negotiating might go back and forth for a while before you see some results.

These were just a couple of ways to look at your options. The final decision is something that you need to be satisfied by. 8)