Blacklist of Suppliers and Manufacturers.

[tadad1]

I recently had an email from a trader who had been conned by a wholesaler in Hong Kong who supplied him with thousands of dollars in hacked players. I notice that a few of our members have also have also unknowingly been conned by these manufacturers\suppliers so maybe it is time we listed the crooks at the top of the ladder.

Here is the info Jon sent me.

"Warning!!! Hacked 4GB and 2GB players

Supplier Hong Kong Ease Vision Digital Tech Co., Ltd. hk.evison
Frank Tam sales manager
The company is also known as hk.evision
and its website address is www.evhk.com

This supplier is knowingly supplying hacked players

The 4GB players contain 2GB memory chips reprogrammed (hacked) to show a capacity of 4Gb
And the 2GB players contain 1GB memory chips hacked to show 2GB of memory.

Also I ordered EV 880b players and was sent the cheaper EV 880

The price difference between a 4GB EV880b and a 2GB 880 is a huge $26 USD per player price difference!!

Also unless you remove the hack (which takes a bit of time) you will find that the reprogramming fries the chip and the player becomes useless.

Please DO NOT deal with this guy, he will rip you off.

I have already had contact from a person wanting to deal with this company and he told Frank Tam that he had read my warnings about thier company.

He was told by Mr Tam that my problems were being sorted out..

I first contacted Mr Tam on the 19th December telling him that I had discovered that the players were hacked and asking him what he was going to do about it and he has not returned one Email since then, so whatever he tells people regarding fixing my problems would be lies.

This type of rip off does seem to be common practise in China so make sure that you ask for a sample and even then only make small orders until you are satisfied with the quality of the goods.

Thanks

JON"

[Strummin'Ronin]

Oh jeez....

BTTT.

[MP4hack]

Hello,

I have one more to add "Liquidation.com". If you buy from them and know about the hack you find out in time and file a dispute form within the two day window and get your money back BUT before Ibought these I
Knew nothing about the hack. They are just a middle man between buyers and sellers and I will be posting the sellers ID here soon.

Before last week I never owned an MP4 player. I watched Ebay auctions and the completed listings searches on the players and won two auctions at liquidation.com at a price I sould had been able to make maybe a 8% profit from after ebay fees and such.

Learning about hacked players by buying 62 of them realy sucks!! The site is a broker between bussiness and they have a two day time limit from the time your packages arrives to open up a dispute over damaged or misrepresented items. This realy is not much time for a buyer to investagate something of this nature.

If you go to thier site you will likely find at least a dozen CASES of hacked mp4 players that will be auctioned this week. Many of these players will make it to Ebay im sure.

After I found problems with the one player I was going to keep for myself I found this fourm and then went to a computer store and had a tech. go through the prosses posted on this fourm for removing the hack so I have a statment from a third party that my lot of 42 4GB players are realy 109mb players and my 20 8GBplayers are realy 2GB players.

I think if people on this fourm also called liquidation.com and conplained to them they are a source of hacked players that make thier way to ebay maybe it would help the big picture a little.

I am faxing my dispute to them on monday along with my statment from the computer store because I was told they may still investagate even thoe its past the two day limit do to the nature of my dispute.

I know many people on this fourm look to Ebay sellers that ripped them off but these sellers are getting the players from someplace and Liquidation.com is one of them.

I borrowed 3500.00 dollars I do not have to buy these players and I couldnt hardly pay my bills before this. I dont know what will happen with this comming round of bills. If I had not started my little search for truth I could of had them listed, made my money, got a little bad feedback, and got on with my life like nothing happened but Know I know.

If you want to help clean up Ebay and help me at the same time call liquidation.com and ask them to stop selling hacked players or offer a longer time to dispute mp4 player sales. If Ebay sellers did not get stuck with cases of junk they would be less likly to pass it on to ebay buyers maybe.

Greg

[MP4hack]

KO, here are the two sellers from Liquidation.com that sold me hacked mp4s samuru and Dad1914 . Samuru sold me 42 4GB players that turned out to be 109MB. Dad1914 sold me 20 8GBplayers that turned out to be 2GB.

Greg

[MP4hack]

UPDATE

"Liquidation.com" has honored my disputes. I t took me longer then the two days they normaly alow for disputes but the nature of these hacked players takes more then two days to learn and then prove. This is a fairly new scam and I believe the site may had learnt about it from me and it seems they are taking steps to look into sellers.

Also during my searches on the net about the site it seems they suould be a good source but they are somewhat like Ebay and its not part of the plan to inspect sellers stuff unless there is a problem.

Greg

[tadad1]

MP4hack, Well unlike eBay at least they care enough about their buyers to put things right.