Hey i have taken these guys to paypal if anyone can help me to get them taken down tell me what to say and if i can get a copy of the petition please i gonna get them!!!! I bought 4 of them

Let me update what happened. I gave the seller a neg feedback and the seller responded with a neg feedback. which puts me in the low 90% since I have very few feedbacks. Naturally I can't afford the negative feedback from him. But I was determined to leave the neg feedback if he refused to refund me. He is banking on buyers who gave him neg to retract. He knows very well that neg feedbacks don't go well for the average joe. I requested for full refund (including shipping) and he gave in, and refused to withdraw the neg until I received my refund. I'm a little ashamed to say that I caved. I never even seen the player, refused shipment when it arrived at the door as agreed upon with seller. The delivery from China was very fast, took less than a week.

Re: 8GB mp4 Player alert - Seller: hailitele
 

The negative feedback issue is a problem.

I received negative (my only one) from jungle.bookstore (aka jungle.foodstore, now no loger eBay registered).
I cannot even ask them to retract now..

So I emailed eBay.
Here's an excerpt:

"..I was concerned that I would receive negative.. ..so I asked eBay what I could do to safeguard myself. I was told there was nothing I could do.

I delayed leaving feedback until PayPal closed my case." (this was done without explanation) "Then I felt others needed to be warned of this seller seeing as PayPal was doing nothing (it was a matter of principle and I thought if it costs me AUD$80 to warn others so be it).

I was checking my PayPal account today and saw they had re-opened the case and were still reviewing it. That is when I checked the item again and saw I had been given negative feedback...

I think there needs to be a system in place to safeguard the plaintiff in a dispute case. The feedback system should reflect this by limiting the type of feedback the defendant can leave if the dispute is unresolved and especially when the case is found to be in the plaintiff's favour."

Maybe all of us who have unfairly received negatives need to complain to eBay so the system is revised to protect the buyers of fake goods.

I will update this board when I get a reply.

Not sure what you mean by the above.

A bit of advice to people who are worried about negative feedback. DON'T WORRY ABOUT IT. I used to sweat if I got a negative feedback, 100% of the time they were unjust negatives. If you give some righteous negative feedback, and they give you a retaliatory negative in return, at least you can feel good about the fact you DID THE RIGHT THING.

Re: 8GB mp4 Player alert - Seller: hailitele
 

Hey all,

I wish i had seen this site sooner as i got a "BRAND NEW (3RD GENERATION) 8GB* 1.8” TFT MP3/MP4 PLAYER".

Also from hailitele.

I knew about the 1gb playable and recordable capacity but...

When I first got it there was 2 drives 1x8gb (DRIVE F) and 1x1gb (DRIVE G). I started to fill the 8gb up with music but when i unattached the player and went into music ... there would be sum folders missing. when i attached it back to comp the folders would be there but all messed up. so i formatted the 8gb now the drive g has disappeared and im only left with 1gb on drive f :shock: .

I guess this means hailitele is actually selling sum hacked players?

Check out bt-big-world, they use the same line of text in their listing. I think the issue here is that "8GB" shouldn`t be allowed in the title whether it has an asterix or not. All of hailitele and bt-big-world 8gb items seem to carry the same line. bt-big world has over 100 8gb players a day and hailitele has over 250 8gb players listed each and every single day. Nice little earner for Ebay!!!

Re: 8GB mp4 Player alert - Seller: hailitele
 

it would have been fantastic to see this about 2 weeks ago. :roll:

the crazy thing is he gives the link to this forum in his "quick start" instructions. :lol:

Re: 8GB mp4 Player alert - Seller: hailitele
 

BRAND NEW (3RD GENERATION) 8GB* 1.8” TFT MP3/MP4 PLAYER


FRAUD DO NOT PURCHASE !!!!! Yep I wanna help take this guy down as well. . . I THINK THE BEST WAY TO HIT HIM HARD IS THROUGH COPYRIGHT !!! DID ANYONE GET A SONG SAY YOU SAY ME - BY LIONEL RICHIE INSTALLED ON THEIR PLAYER ??? PLUS OTHER ITEMS ?

IF YOU HAVE PURCHASED THIS PLAYER I URGE YOU TO READ ON . . .


DEALING WITH HAILITELE
The item was paid for. The postage was quick and reliable however, Firstly the item is faulty. It does not play radio or video, and there is much internal background noise (bleeps and processing noises - over the music volume). Software Problems (Installation CD was intentionally omitted from delivery and the seller had opened the box and put some online
installation instructions of his own into the box.) Those instructions
sent me an online web site to download free software that did not work,
or alternatively Sharware software that I had to pay extra for to
register.

This product is full of errors including MEMORY hacks, which state that
the item has 8GB capacity when in fact it only has 1GB of onboard memory if I choose to update with the appropriate firmware.

The music is unpleasant to listen to because of this background noise.
The player also came with copyrighted objects already installed. i.e.
the song Say you Say me by Lionel Richie. This item had been opened and
copyrighted objects were copied to it prior to delivery.

I filed a negative feedback. As soon as I did that the seller filed a
REVENGE dispute saying that I did not pay. I have paid and I have the
paypal receipts to prove it. Infact, the seller contacted me first
thanking me for the fast payment I had made. He also left me bad buyer
feedback on grounds that were untrue, blackmailing me to mutually remove our feedback with a refund that I have NOT recieved.

THE REFUND PROCESS
So in my paypal account I have this extra transaction called REFUND PENDING. . .Which means that there are insufficient funds in the sellers account to make the refund.

THE ONLINE FRAUD COPYRIGHT INFRINGEMENT PROCESS (FROM EBAY)
.... I have forwarded a report of your concerns regarding copyright
infringement so that our Investigations team can look further into this
and the appropriate action.

Based on these concerns, It may also be in your best interest to contact
local law enforcement authorities for you and the seller.

Alternatively, you could also contact the Australian Federal Police, as
they also handle online fraud complaints. You can find a contact number
for the Australian Federal Police at their website, http://www.afp.gov.au/

When contacting law enforcement authorities, please let them know that
eBay will cooperate with the investigation. The officer can find
information on how to contact eBay at the following page:

http://pages.ebay.com.au/securitycentre/howcontact.html

On this page, the officer will find both an email address and a fax
number to reach eBay.

Please request that the officer include the following information:

1. The case number

2. The officer's name

3. The officer's telephone number

If you would like to you can also request the members contact
information on file with eBay.

YOU WILL NEED THE SELLERS CONTACT INFORMATION TO DO THIS:

Heqi Sheng 155 Zhi Dan Lu Hong Kong Ge 3/F B Shanghai, 200065, CHINA

Payment To : Sheng Heqi
Seller's ID : hailitele
Seller's Email: hailitele@hotmail.com

Re: 8GB mp4 Player alert - Seller: hailitele
 

:x just found this site,
a bit too late as i have bought over 20 players off him already,
it's not the fact that i have found them to be only 1gb, but that i have sold them on.
now just waiting for the backlash. one good thing is i have feedback to leave for around five of them exspect five red dots on his account .
:twisted:

This guy also sells on a site now:

http://www.hailitele.com/

He sells "8GB" players but only 1GB can be used.....

Funny thing is, on his help page he has a link to mympxplayer.org for anyone that wants help using their mp4 players, i wonder if he knows there is an entire thread on his cheating ass.