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Old 7th Jul 2007, 7:40 am
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Default New Fraud on Ebay - seller - tommy-jones-smithy


Check out seller tommy-jones-smithy.

This guy has a couple of hundred listings a day on Ebay and it appears from his feedback that he asks buyers to send money to a PO Box. He doesn`t use Paypal. His feedback is in freefall but he is still selling MP4 players at £20+ as well as other items. I have emailed Ebay twice today about it and even used the law-enforcement@ebay link, but still it goes on.

Here is one of his listings: Seller: tommy-jones-smithy >> 8GB MP3 PLAYER MP4 FM RADIO SAMSUNG 1.8" LCD VIDEO FM

I have successfully contacted a few of the people bidding, but then the Ebay system clicks in to stop you contacting Ebayers. Ebay are an absolute joke.
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Old 8th Jul 2007, 12:46 pm
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User ID: tommy-jones-smithy
Name: joe smith
Company:
City: barrow-in-furness
County: Cumbria
Country: United Kingdom
Phone: 01614083837
Registered Since: Friday, 16 Feb, 2007 23:01:30 GMT


PAYMENT
You can either pay via Cheque/Postal order or Bank transfer
After the auction you shall be send an email with the correct payment details

Please pay within 3 days, therefore you can have the mp3 player faster

TERMS
Please do not purchase if you disagree with the payment or shipping methods
We provide 12 months warranty on all items purchased
All payments must be received within 3 days at the end of the auction
All defective products must be reported within 7 days of purchase
Feedback will be given once we have received feedback
If you do not have the merchandise after 10 days please contact us
Please note it can take up to 10-14 days for the item purchased to be deliviered, this is due to the postage delays and the clearence of the payment.

What do you think E Bay will do Rob?
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Old 8th Jul 2007, 1:39 pm
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Ebay are truely unbelievable.
It is 9-30PM on Sunday and he still has an active Ebay account although no listings active. I emailed them about 36 hours ago when his feedback went into freefall. Then I emailed them a couple of hours later and later still I used the fraudprevention@ebay link.
It is astonishing how many people were bidding and winning his items despite his feedback which by about 7PM last night was just about all negs on the first page. I even highlighted what was going on in my listings in the morning.
As the old saying goes "You can lead a horse to water but you cant make it drink"
As for Ebay, the mind boggles. Maybe they dont think that "alleged fraud" happens at the weekend.
Maybe they will sort it out in the morning after they have had a look at page three in the Sun and had a cup of coffee.
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Old 8th Jul 2007, 3:18 pm
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Yes his account is still active! but he still has plenty of listings active as I bid one pence this evening at 20.38 so I could pull his details. The listing ends July 09 at 16.45.

I have been out bid wonder what it will sell for?
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Old 9th Jul 2007, 12:55 am
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Default Re: New Fraud on Ebay - seller - tommy-jones-smithy

Geez, the feedback from other members just rips into him!

eBay should have seen all this feedback and put an end to this guy's account straight away!

I've attached a .pdf of his feedback (this is only the first page as well!)
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Old 9th Jul 2007, 1:43 am
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Ebay are getting nasty again. Here is an email I got from them today.

eBay sent this message to Robert Jones (robjones555).
Your registered name is included to help confirm this message originated from eBay. Learn more.
eBay Listing Removed: No Item (=LS &12362 JM120221388)

Dear robjones555,
We appreciate that you chose eBay to list the following Fixed Price listing(s):
180136742481 - MP3 MP4 SCAM 2GB 8GB 4GB 90of 8GB MP4s r SCAMS READ
However, your listing was in breach of eBay's No Item policy and has been removed from eBay. All fees related to this listing have been credited to your account. We also notified members who placed bids on the item that the listing has
been canceled.

We would like to take this opportunity to let you know what part of your listing is not permitted.
Your listing(s) contains the following information:
7-7-07 URGENT UPDATE!!
SELLER TOMMY-JONES-SMITHY
CHECK HIS FEEDBACK
Here are some links for other sellers selling these players
jungle.foodstore
http://toolhaus.org/cgi-bin/negs?Use...ed+by&ref=home
maryclassic
http://toolhaus.org/cgi-bin/negs?Use...ed+by&ref=home
showthepower
http://toolhaus.org/cgi-bin/negs?Use...ed+by&ref=home

You may not list intangible items or items whose existence cannot be verified, such as ghosts, souls or spirits.

IMPORTANT NOTICE: If you relist this, or any other item that breaches eBay policy, your eBay privileges could be suspended. We value you as a member of our community and wish to continue this relationship, so we must ask you to refrain from further breaches of the User Agreement and eBay policy.
Please review eBay's Listing Policies and User Agreement at the following locations:
What about that then? An interesting point here is that most of my listings have carried the feedback links that have been pointed out by Ebay as being cause to stop the listing. I am thinking about trying to get the listing fees back for them as well.
Astonishingly, tommy-jones-smithy`s account is still active.
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Old 9th Jul 2007, 5:06 am
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Seems E Bay are only bothered about the sellers, and not the interest of the buyers.

Well you have had a good run Rob, but it was just only a matter of time that your white knuckle ride would come to an end.

But at least you gave it a good try, and drove your message home to some buyers and perhaps E Bay. I think watchdog might be of some help? if they were to get their teeth into this as they did on one occasion before about fake boots. I wrote a couple of e mails to them, but had no feedback.
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Old 9th Jul 2007, 5:21 am
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Default Re: New Fraud on Ebay - seller - tommy-jones-smithy

As of now, tommy-jones-smithy is no longer a registered E Bay member
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Old 9th Jul 2007, 5:35 am
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Great job, there. Too bad doing it to the next eejut that comes along is likely to cause you to lose your account.

And I must say, the following line is at least a bit funny from the email you got, not least because it has nothing to do with you:

"You may not list intangible items or items whose existence cannot be verified, such as ghosts, souls or spirits. "
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