Hacked player from eBay seller rogerlam628

[womblebongo]

It angers me that ebay allows this fraud to go on. I was conned a year ago!

You buy from Hong Kong, worrying that nothing will turn up. So when it arrives you're so releaved that you give positive feedback. It's only weeks later that it stops working properly and you end up at this wonderful site.

For what it's worth I've reported some of rogerlam628's 4GB listings to ebay.

Report a breach of an eBay listing policy or a prohibited item: eBay Help: Contact Us.

good luck with the refund.

[koulourakia_girl]

Hi all,

Just registered, cos I wanted to share my frustrations with like-minded individuals and thank you guys who posted info on how to remove the hack on rogerlam's mp3players (I am somewhat technologically challenged, and the directions were great, THANKS!)

I bought a 4GB player, and to my *amazement* (ha! googled this dude a week ago and found all this info on his scam) after I re-formatted the player, it is only 1.89GB! And if that weren't bad enough, the lying about item location, and then he says in his listings that he will post out item within 48 hours of payment - he didn't send it out for 2.5 weeks! he lied twice, saying he'd sent it, but it was only when I got really antsy about it and threatened to contact ebay that he actually sent it (although still didn't get sent for a further week - I checked the post mark stuff)...

I've only just removed the hack, and have sent him a long, long email pointing out all my issues with him(including pointing out that his practices, as the ones I have personally experienced, are against ebay policy, and he is even committing FRAUD). I mentioned his location being wrong, the delay in post, and the crap layer. i do not want to send it back at my own expense, so I have insisted on half money refund. I have no problem going to ebay if he stuffs me around...

Thanks also to the person on here who mentioned sending phoos as evidence of the player being hacked etc - I did the same - pics before and after, plus pic of the sticker saying 4GB on back - just so he couldn't claim the wrong product was sent....

Just gotta wait for a response now...

agggghrrrrrrrr don't get a greek chick mad!

Koulourakia_Girl

[lattesurf]

Seems like it is a new tactic for these scammers to send the players at a much later date after paying. Perhaps trying to lessen the effect of the 60day limit of Item Not Significantly Described.

By sending it out a few weeks late, would have cut the 60 day limit by almost half. And for the unsuspecting buyer, they probably might not know or have any problems until after a few more weeks. By then, maybe the 60day limit is up and they can't file any claims.

Hongkong/China to the rest of the world does not take a few weeks. Except for a few countries where customs take a long time to clear your mail, or if you tie the package to a pigeon's leg to fly across the Atlantic.
I've bought players from Hongkong and China before, all via normal airmail, and it took just about 5-7working days after they posted it out.

[koulourakia_girl]

Yeah, that's exactly what I thought, too...but I had the dates all worked-out, so if I hadn't received the player by a certain date, I was filing - unfortunately, that will not cover me if the player decides to die in a few weeks time...that's why I'm so insistent about hassling this bloke for a partial refund...He still hasn't replied to my email (sent mid-morning). I know he's been on ebay, cos he's left positive feedback for a number of buyers...but he's clearly ignoring me...So I emailed him again earlier this evening, a mere five minutes after he left feedback for someone (and one could assume he was still online)...still nothing.

Oh, he's getting this greek chick hot under the collar, I tell ya...

P.S. Has anyone actually had a proper read through the instruction manuals sent out with the products??? Looks like it was translated from Chinese to Russian to French to Pig Latin, and then finally to english - parts are utterly incomprehensible! "Press MENU to enter the son menu of stop."...Is it me, or is that difficult? I started out pressing all these buttons trying to work out basic functions...and still having a hard time, until I read the manual 9or tried to), and found out that I shouldn't be pressing/pushing buttons, but PLUCKING them...ah, it all makes so much sense now....a delicate pluck like the string of a finely-tuned guitar.

[tandesmom]

Thank goodness I found this! I am in the same boat. I bought an MP3/Mp4 player (4GB but no doubt 2 GB) in the middle of September. "Roger" sent an email and said that he sent the package 5 days after I won the auction. I have yet to recieve it, so I emailed him. He returned my email with the tracking number for a package, saying he sent it out and should get it soon. Well, the tracking number he gave me says only that it's destined for the US but not a location. Also it says that he just mailed it out on Saturday! That's 21 days after purchase and 15 days AFTER he said he mailed it in the first place! I am so angry!

[Brew Swillis]

I hate to say it, but I think the guy is just busy with selling and shipping mass quantities of his hacked players. He responds to my emails fairly quickly, which is usually the next day. He is probably just swamped and maybe out of stock at times. Just look at how many feedbacks he receives per day! He needs to be stopped!

Get your partial refunds, and then leave negative feedback. He hates that. He keeps asking me to remove mine.

He told me that I seem to be smart, and should know that I can't buy a real 4GB player for $46. He told me that if I wanted a real 4GB player, I would have to send him $58. I could buy one from a legitimate seller for $58. :lol:

[koulourakia_girl]

Hi there tandesmom!

Ah, the same old story just keeps coming up over and over again...

I had the same prob - he emailed and said he sent it the day after I paid. Waited two weeks, still got nothing. I emailed again, and asked where the hell it was. He told me that there was a problem in manufacture (so at very least he's selling products he doesn't actually have), and he had just sent it out. Gave me a tracking number too...Kept checking the site, and it finally registered in the HK mail system on the 29th - so the second time he said he sent it, he actually didn't...I waited like a little over 2.5 weeks for him to send the item! Even then took a while to get here.

He STILL hasn't replied to my emails (I sent TWO yesterday) insisting on a generous partial refund...and I know he's been online (and on ebay) cos he keeps leaving feedback for people - and it's customised feedback, not an automated feedback thing...he's bloody ignoring me! I just sent him another email, telling him that I DO NOT appreciate being ignored and he needs to get in contact with me asap or I'm gonna file a dispute...

:evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil:

When you get the player, as you yourself said, it is undoubtedly going to be a mere 2GB, this is where I went: http://www.xbox0.co.uk/

You know what really upsets me about this guys fraudulent activity? It's that all these people get their items, and don't check the out "properly", and leave him positive feedback...I've spoken to a few of them, who insist that their players are actually 4GB - but they've only checked the properties thing on their computer - of course it's gonna say it's 4 - it's HACKED!!!

Good luck with it

P.S. I just had a look at his most recent feedback - have you noticed how many feedback retractions he's had??? 218!!! I've heard from a couple of people that they leave neg or neut feedback, and he refuses to give them any part refund, unless they first get the bad feedback removed...I'm pretty sure this is against ebay policy...That's why I haven't left any feedback yet - waiting to get refund, then he's gonna incurr the full velocity of my greek wrath..... :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock:

P.P.S. Quoting Brew Swilis' post: "He told me that I seem to be smart, and should know that I can't buy a real 4GB player for $46. He told me that if I wanted a real 4GB player, I would have to send him $58." Now THAT is against ebay policy - good evidence against him if you were going to file a dispute or report him - it shows that he KNOWS FULL-WELL that the players he advertises as 4GB are not so - he charges more for the 'real'4GB....That's really sucky...

[lattesurf]

Pure B.S. Even if you paid $100, i doubt you are ever going to get a real 4GB. Being scammed the first time round, who would actually trust him again to send a real 4GB?

[koulourakia_girl]

OH MY BLOODY GOODNESS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I just got a response from the bloke - you may remember from a earlier post I said that I wrote him a lengthy email, pointing out all the problems I had with the transaction...and insisted on getting half my money back (I realise this is probably a pipe dream)...but anyway...yes, long email. THIS is the response I got from that email, cut and paste:

"Hi friend
you can check that
Mail Tracking

Outward Registered Letter

Destination - Australia
The item left Hong Kong for its destination on 29-Sep-2007
so pls don't worry,you will receive your item
would you pls wait for a few days patiently?
have a good day
roger"


DID HE EVEN READ THE EMAIL, OR ATTEMPT TO??? I JUST SENT THE ORIGINAL EMAIL BACK TO HIM AGAIN, WITH LARGE RED TEXT AT TOP OF PAGE, TELLING HIM I HAVE RECEIVED ITEM AND I'M NO HAPPY, AND TO READ THE EMAIL PROPERLY AND RESPOND ASAP....

THIS IS RIDICULOUS!

[tandesmom]

Hi koulourakia_girl!

Sounds unbeliveable. I think I'm heading down the same road with this guy!

Yesterday I posted negative feedback that was a link to this forum. Hopefully some will look around a little before they bid on those things! Because of the negative feedback, he emailed said:

hi my friend
i am very sorry to see the negaitve feedback you left on ebay,pls tell
me the problem of your item,so that can help you to solve it.
waiting for your reply！
a nice day~~
rogerlam

Well, I just sent him a message saying "The negative feedback is deserved. I have yet to recieve the player I purchased. I know the player you are sending is NOT 4GB as listed, your slow shipping, and your lie about sending it on September 19 have led me to post negative feedback. I'm contacting paypal today about the situation."

So now off to paypal for the story. This guy is unbelievable! He must be stopped! The sad thing is that I googled his name with "scam" before I bid, and nothing came up! I guess I should have expanded the search to include "fraud"!


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