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How can I make a Backup of my firmware??? Using S1FWX doesn't really make sence 'cause in adfu use they dont help.... ???

[admin]

Have a look at this Knowledge Base - How to: extract firmware of your player using the S1fwx tool located here.

Follow those instructions and let me know at what stage you get stuck.....

[fabdn]

i don't have any problems using s1fwx ...
s1fwx firmware dumps arent usefull when you've killed your player . when your player doesnt start anymore, how do you want to upgrade your firmware?? the only possibility is making a short circuit
==>[img=left:758a92058b]http://s1mp3.org/images/mem_chip.png[/img:758a92058b](@ atj2085P chip)
to let the player start in the adfu mode(adfu.ap ; located in the BREC) . in this mode, you cant load s1fwx firmware dumps so these dumps arent useful !! s1fwx doesnt extract the whole firmware - only some parts!

if you've really KILLEd your player, you cant use these dumps
didnt you know anything about the adfu mode ôÔ

have a look here: http://s1mp3.org/en/docs_deadrec.php

[admin]

fabdn

Have a look at the - Dead Player Recovery Guide from here.

It is more in depth.

Also you will need the FULL FIRMWARE file, which can be located in the [Downloads] --> [Firmware] --> [Full Firmware].

Hope this helps you out.

[fabdn]

[quote="admin";p="4101"]fabdn

Have a look at the - Dead Player Recovery Guide from here.

It is more in depth.

Also you will need the FULL FIRMWARE file, which can be located in the [Downloads] --> [Firmware] --> [Full Firmware].

and if these full firmwares dont work on my player???
Thats why i started this Topic:

A NEW FIRMWARE EXTRACTING TOOL EXISTS
it's called ATJUPLOAD . It extracts a FULL FIRMWARE

do you know this tool or do you want a link?

[tadad1]

fabdn, Despite it's claims I do not beleive ATJUPLOAD does extract a full firmware here is why:

These are the files in a full version firmware:

file id = 'AFI '
vendor id = 0x6977
product id = 0x6552
version = 3.5.35
date = 05/12/2005

+---filename---+ +---size---+ +-type-+ +---+ +--chksum--+
| ADFUS.BIN | | 9kb | | | | A | | 21D089D3 |
| HWSCAN.BIN | | 11.5kb | | | | H | | E923E065 |
| BRECF644.BIN | | 16kb | | F644 | | B | | 96D302E7 |
| BRECF641.BIN | | 16kb | | F641 | | B | | 10C28161 |
| BRECF321.BIN | | 16kb | | F321 | | B | | 1590B948 |
| FWSCF644.BIN | | 11.5kb | | F644 | | F | | 239A80DE |
| FWSCF641.BIN | | 11.5kb | | F641 | | F | | D9DF3B6F |
| FWSCF321.BIN | | 11.5kb | | F321 | | F | | E2689DBC |
| RCSLOLED.BIN | | 1.5kb | | | | S | | FAE79429 |
| RCSEOLED.BIN | | 1.5kb | | | | S | | A10ED38B |
| SYSINFO.BIN | | 192bytes | | | | | | 8D824BD7 |
| ADFUF644.AP | | 11kb | | F644 | | U | | 50C62F78 |
| ADFUF641.AP | | 11kb | | F641 | | U | | 33B8C3C1 |
| ADFUF321.AP | | 11kb | | F321 | | U | | 35632AA8 |
| FWIMAGE.FW | | 5.73mb | | | | I | | B4D8FBFE |
+--------------+ +----------+ +------+ +---+ +----------+

These are the files in the ATJUPLOAD dump:


file id = 'AFI '
vendor id = 0x10D6
product id = 0x1100
version = 3.5.35
date = 01/01/2005

+---filename---+ +---size---+ +-type-+ +---+ +--chksum--+
| ADFUS.BIN | | 9kb | | | | A | | 21D089D3 |
| FWSCF641.BIN | | 11.5kb | | F641 | | F | | D9DF3B6F |
| ADFUF641.AP | | 11kb | | F641 | | U | | 33B8C3C1 |
| BRECF641.BIN | | 16kb | | F641 | | B | | 10C28161 |
| FWIMAGE.FW | | 5.73mb | | | | I | | 010FC45E |
+--------------+ +----------+ +------+ +---+ +----------+

These are the files in an s1fwx dump:

file id = 'AFI '
vendor id = 0x6977
product id = 0x6552
version = 3.5.35
date = 00/00/0000

+---filename---+ +---size---+ +-type-+ +---+ +--chksum--+
| BRECF641.BIN | | 16kb | | F641 | | B | | 10C28161 |
| FWSCF641.BIN | | 11.5kb | | F641 | | F | | D9DF3B6F |
| ADFUF641.AP | | 11kb | | F641 | | U | | 33B8C3C1 |
| FWIMAGE.FW | | 5.73mb | | | | I | | B4D8FBFE |
| SYSINFO.BIN | | 192bytes | | | | | | 28B22C9A |
+--------------+ +----------+ +------+ +---+ +----------+

These examples are all the same firmware. As you can see ATJUPLOAD only extracts 5 files the same as s1fwx the only difference between the 2 is ATJUPLOAD extracts ADFUS.BIN instead of SYSINFO.BIN extracted by s1fwx.
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So how does a full version firmware help even if it is incompatible with your player?

When your player is in recovery mode it is as if it has no firmware installed. When you install a full version firmware it places the full 15 files needed for the player to boot and run even if it is not compatible with your player. Then when you load your backup firmware it will overwrite the 5 files it contains but leave the 10 files from the full firmware that are needed to get your player working again.

This is the only way I know of restoring your firmware to a dead player. To the best of my knowledge there is no way yet to extract a full version firmware from your player , however it is possible to merge a full version firmware with your own partial firmware to create a full firmware for your player by using s1fwx and making a batch file as follows:

Open Notepad and paste this text into it and then save it and rename it to Merge.bat.

@echo off
::make script from full.bin to recompile from
s1fwx s full.bin > merge.script
::extract files from the full.bin
s1fwx x full.bin
::extract files from dump.bin overwriting files extracted from full.bin
s1fwx x dump.bin
::rebuild full firmware with files from dump.bin included
s1fwx a merged.bin:afi < merge.script
::delete surplus files
for %%t in (dump full merged) do ren %%t.bin *.bak
for %%t in (script ap fw bin bi$) do del *.%%t
ren *.bak *.bin

Then you need to place it in your s1fwx folder along with the full firmware named full.bin and your dump.bin. When you run Merge.bat it will extract the files from your backup and over write the same files in the full version and create a file called merged.bin which will basicly be a full version of your firmware.

I hope this helps answer your post ...

[admin]

Originally Posted by fabdn";p=&quot

and if these full firmwares dont work on my player??? Thats why i started this Topic:

A NEW FIRMWARE EXTRACTING TOOL EXISTS
it's called ATJUPLOAD . It extracts a FULL FIRMWARE

do you know this tool or do you want a link?

Have you tried them yet though?

Why not try them first and then post your result here? Then we can go from there....... it's all trial and error. There is NO Guarantee firmware that is going to recover every player every time. So it's best to try them. If it works, let us know and which one. If it doesn't, then let us know too.