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alex2pb 19th Jul 2007 9:33 pm

IT's ALIVE, IT's ALIVE
 
All righty, I couldn't resist and F/W'ed my player. With the WRONG firmware. I have seen the white screen :shock:. It was soooo bight... and my hands were trembling a bit. After invoking some divine help, got the 4 glacier firmwares from uxcell and started flashing the player. And guess what: IT's ALIVE! The whole thing lasted less than 5 minutes hehe :D. And the best part: Now i have a game in it :D :D, russia blocks. This is SOOO cool. So i'll post my specs here because Nexus Electronics SRL wich is a romanian seller of these players (in fact the only distributor i am aware of) sold this stuff all over the country. So it is very likely that many people with glacier-like nexus nomad players will come here for firmware. Here's the stuff:

Code:

Name:
Nexus NOMAD A217, 2GB

-Chipset:
ACTIONS LTD. ATJ2093N

-Memory chip:
SAMSUNG - 746
K9LAG08U0M

-FM tuner chip:
PHILIPS TEA5767
VCLDD0
01
DPG05282

-Board version
ZX-923M-TLS v1.0
2006.11.24

-Firmware
2007/02/14
9.1.51
ACT2093_S75
2006/06/12

I used this firmware for it:
Code:

mp039_firmware_ver4.bin {9.0.50}
Thank you so much for all your guides! Also, i found out a very important thing: To get it to be recognised as an ADFU device, all i did was to connect it to the USB cable with no battery in ;). So you can try this on your (dead) players and see if it works for you too, because there's a risk to actually burn the memory chip :D.

@tadad1, admin: I really owe you guys a beer! If you ever get to Romania, e-mail me ;)

alex2pb 19th Jul 2007 10:25 pm

Re: IT's ALIVE, IT's ALIVE
 
Hi again. I found a glitch but resolved it. It seems that the firmware i used works, except for the f**king speaker. So as i know very tiny bit of russian i searched the web and found A 100% WORKING FIRMWARE. It's from the russian glacier-type distributor, called DaZed. Their 9.0.50 firmware worked perfectly... And now i have 4 games on the player hehe :D.

Archive with the perfect firmware here:
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=62GLU0XL

admin 19th Jul 2007 10:45 pm

alex2pb,

That's great to hear!
Thanks for sharing this with us, much appreciated.

I will upload that firmware to this site. Do you have a picture or image of your player as well?

What tool did you use to flash your player (as I see you have the 9.1.51 firmware).

alex2pb 19th Jul 2007 11:17 pm

Re: IT's ALIVE, IT's ALIVE
 
God i'm glad this worked! I used this:

MP3 Player Utilities 4.05 -> got the from UXCELL Support area, for Glacier

Also here are the pics, fresh, taken minutes ago :)

http://img149.imageshack.us/img149/1559/sany0805nv4.jpg
http://img522.imageshack.us/img522/834/sany0805hi7.jpg
http://img218.imageshack.us/img218/6517/sany0806vh2.jpg
http://img172.imageshack.us/img172/7481/sany0807uq0.jpg
http://img361.imageshack.us/img361/4430/sany0808gj9.jpg

Sorry for the late, i had to vacuum :D. if you need more information, i'll be around.

est 30th Jul 2007 10:11 am

Re: IT's ALIVE, IT's ALIVE
 
At first thnx Alex.

So my brother bought him a new mp3 player and i got his glacier looking one. (Same looking as Alex but black) But it has problem- it keeps restarting itself?!?

I decided to try and replace the FW:P
Thanks to Alex i got the right ones again (the russia one), but the restarting issue still keeps going - can anyone help me with that?

alex2pb 30th Jul 2007 11:47 am

Hi there est! Here's what you need to do... Put some paper under the batery to push it up and try to use it. The restarting is because at these models, the battery connectors are not well made and the battery doesn't touch the connectors properly. I hope this helps :).

est 30th Jul 2007 1:14 pm

Re: IT's ALIVE, IT's ALIVE
 
will try it immediately

scatwell 31st Jul 2007 9:35 am

Re: IT's ALIVE, IT's ALIVE
 
Hiya

Any chance you can make that firmware version available for download? I don't seem to be able to get it & it could well be what I need as my player looks exactly same as yours.

Cheers

alex2pb 31st Jul 2007 11:11 am

scatwell, please, if your player works DO NOT update the firmware. You have 100% chances to DESTROY IT FOREVER if the firmware is not designed for that motherboard your player has. Please reconsider it before doing something like this.

Here is the link for the file that worked 4 me:
http://rapidshare.com/files/46177822...mware.rar.html

neosoftnaveen 31st Jul 2007 11:19 am

hai i want frimware 3.x.x.x for my ipod please help

scatwell 2nd Aug 2007 1:54 am

Re: IT's ALIVE, IT's ALIVE
 
Alex2pb

Can you do an s1clone image of your player flash & upload it please? go to http://www.s1mp3.de and download the s1clone tool. Make sure your mp4 is as empty as possible otherwise file is enormous (it will be 50M as it is!) - it will take about an hour or 2 so sorry about inconvenience but I think it is the only way my player & I'm sure lots of others will beable to work again.
I think you will make a lot of people happy :D

admin 2nd Aug 2007 2:17 am

You are also welcome to upload it to this site as well to share with others.

Compress it if you can to try and save disk space.

alex2pb 2nd Aug 2007 2:36 am

I HAD 9.1.51. As I specified, I have broken the 9.1.51 firmware and now I use 9.0.50. I allready posted that one in my second post and also 2 packs of Glacier firmwares. The clone contains exactly the same firmware I allready posted on the site ;)

scatwell 2nd Aug 2007 2:57 am

Re: IT's ALIVE, IT's ALIVE
 
Alex

What I think you have uploaded is firmware backup & not the clone for which you need to use s1clone tool. The clone is I think the only one likely to have a chance of working with my player. Have tried the DaZed one you refer to - it sadly just gives me white screen.

I'm trying to get 9.1.51 cloned image file but need to locate people with working identical players.

Cheers :)

alex2pb 2nd Aug 2007 3:31 am

Yes, that is the firmware backup i posted, but if that doesn't work on your player, the clone will not work either. The clone contains all the data in the flash chip, including the firmware. On the market today i have seen 3 variations of this player that are not compatible one with another. The case looks the same but the board is not identical, thus the white screen (the lcd microcontroller is set on different output pins on the ATJ chip).

So you say you tried the dazed firmware and didn't work, so here are 2 packs of glacier firmwares. Please try these, there's a chance one will work.

http://mympxplayer.org/firmware-9-v9...res-df602.html
http://rapidshare.com/files/45377021...older.rar.html

I tried to extract the image for you but it won't get cloned. It gives me this error (seems to be a libusb driver problem AFAIK)

http://img366.imageshack.us/img366/9515/errornq8.jpg

scatwell 2nd Aug 2007 4:31 am

Quote:

Originally Posted by alex2pb
Yes, that is the firmware backup i posted, but if that doesn't work on your player, the clone will not work either. The clone contains all the data in the flash chip, including the firmware. On the market today i have seen 3 variations of this player that are not compatible one with another. The case looks the same but the board is not identical, thus the white screen (the lcd microcontroller is set on different output pins on the ATJ chip).

So you say you tried the dazed firmware and didn't work, so here are 2 packs of glacier firmwares. Please try these, there's a chance one will work.

http://mympxplayer.org/firmware-9-v9...res-df602.html
http://rapidshare.com/files/45377021...older.rar.html

I tried to extract the image for you but it won't get cloned. It gives me this error (seems to be a libusb driver problem AFAIK)

http://img366.imageshack.us/img366/9515/errornq8.jpg

Hi
Thanks for trying anyway. The circuitry for my player look very similar but possibly not identical (it looks like the small chip at the battery terminal end is smaller on mine, but the general layout is same). What number is on your Samsung memory chip? By the way, I think you may have to have the driver in a different location to get rid of that error.
Cheers

alex2pb 2nd Aug 2007 5:37 am

Re: IT's ALIVE, IT's ALIVE
 
Look in my first post (press the expand button on the code). There are all the specifications for the player.

;-------------------------------------------------------
-Main chip:
ATJ2093N

-Memory chip:
SAMSUNG - 746
K9LAG08U0M

-Board version
ZX-923M-TLS v1.0
2006.11.24

;-------------------------------------------------------

Now try to open your player and GENTLY look on the board on the upper part under the display (but take care when rising it, you don't wanna break the connector!!!!). There should be a serial there, in mine it is ZX-923M-TLS v1.0.

About the driver problem, it is not functioning well because of my damn motherboard. I have only USB 1.1 and there are problems with that type of USB when communicating with s1clone. I will try again, maybe it will work. I allready did that a few times now and it stops after a couple of minutes.

But once again, if the firmware image i posted doesn't work, neither will the clone.

Have you tried the firmwares in that packs?

scatwell 2nd Aug 2007 5:50 am

Re: IT's ALIVE, IT's ALIVE
 
You are right, not same player although they look it. yours is true 2GB, mine only 1GB, (chip is K9G8G...

I got mine from power_player88 see http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/2-Screen-2GB-M...QQcmdZViewItem

Turned out to be 1GB not 2.

Thanks for your input, & if you know anyone with one same as me, please put them in touch with me.

All best

alex2pb 2nd Aug 2007 5:57 am

Dang, that sucks... Can't u get a refund from that guy?

scatwell 2nd Aug 2007 7:04 am

Am trying but he wants me to send it to Hong Kong at my expense before he does anything & I'm not willing to do that. So I want to fix it.... just in case. I'm also interested in the technical bits.

scatwell 2nd Aug 2007 7:50 am

Just quick update: There is a little life with your f/w Alex. I can play MP3's but I have no screen so I can only play, hold or skip through. If I knew the menu system better maybe I could navigate thru the menu, & see if I could at least hear sound on a movie file, but I appreciate that won't be much good to me. At least something is happening beyond being a v expensive flash drive :)

alex2pb 2nd Aug 2007 8:02 am

Re: IT's ALIVE, IT's ALIVE
 
Hmmm i see... You just need to find the proper firmware... So you tested all that firmwares and none worked. There have been people here that had the same problem with the glacier. For some of them that fw worked, for some that had different boards it didn't. Is there a way to picture the board please and post the picture here? Meanwhile I will search all the glacier firmwares i have here.

scatwell 2nd Aug 2007 8:17 am

Re: IT's ALIVE, IT's ALIVE
 
I have tried all I can find that are for 2" screens. The only types I can actually load are v9.0.48 & v9.0.50. The DaZed 9.0.50 seems to let me play MP3s but screen not working. From Ebay listing says screen is 128x96 pixels 2" LCD TFT 65K Color display but I cannot be confident it is. I will try & photo board later but as my camera not good at close up detail not sure how much good it will be.
Appreciate your help, thanks.

alex2pb 2nd Aug 2007 8:31 am

Re: IT's ALIVE, IT's ALIVE
 
Ok :). Well it's actually a 2" 220*176 pixels TFT.

Here's all I could find:
http://rapidshare.com/files/46548428...MWARE.rar.html

Keep me updated, I'd like to see your player working :D.

alex2pb 2nd Aug 2007 8:50 am

Re: IT's ALIVE, IT's ALIVE
 
Hi again... Adter a quick run on a polish website, just found 2 new firmwares i'm sure u didn't try... This might be it... who knows ;)

http://rapidshare.com/files/46552179...E_NEW.rar.html

scatwell 2nd Aug 2007 10:29 am

Tried both. One was 9.0.43 which worked except for screen & speaker. Other said it was 9.0.50 but then I was invited to format the disk when it had rebooted. Again it did not sort out the screen. I decided not to reformat, maybe I should have.
There seems to be another issue, however I've just noticed. I uploaded some mp3's and at 190MB there was a disk full message. I'm certain the chip is 1GB, and I'd previously had nearly 1GB of files on it. Maybe I do need to reformat. I'm hoping a couple of people who've recently bought same player from same supplier will help, but will not know till tomorrow or Monday. In meantime thanks for all your help & as soon as I get progress I'll llet you know.
Cheers

scatwell 4th Aug 2007 2:11 am

Re: IT's ALIVE, IT's ALIVE
 
Firmware I ideally need is 9.1.51 - helpful person who has just bought one from same seller has informed me and has done an s1clone image. Unfortunately the clone image will not write back to my player - there are hardware incompatibility messages & it aborts. I have asked for a dump.bin but they are having problems getting that...
I wonder if removing the hack on these players actually means they are then impossible to revive? I am reluctant to ask this helpful person to remove the hack then get another s1clone image for me to try just in case their player dies. I cannot understand why the extract utility did not work, see below....

this is all that happened when this person used the utility to extract the firmware:

scan for devices...
detected drives: <f> <h> [i]

<a>..<z> select device
<.> scan for devices
<?> display help
<~> exit program

$f
connect to device 'F:\'...
init device...
set device to f-mode...
get info from device...
ic version = 0x0005
storage info = 0x0602, 0x0000, 0x0000, 0x0000
device = 'S1 Mp3 Player'
manufacturer = 'Wilson Co. Ltd.'
bootflash type = 'F285'
brom version = 3.0.80
firmware version = 9.1.51
read boot record...
detect firmware size...
error: The system cannot read from the specified device.
disconnect from device...
Press any key to continue . . .

Can anyone throw any light on this??

alex2pb 4th Aug 2007 5:34 am

Re: IT's ALIVE, IT's ALIVE
 
The thing is that firmwares above 9.0.43 cannot be extracted :(. It seems that your friend used s1fwx to extract it but it won't work. The old firmware was written to a special location in the flash (at the beginning) and the size could be read. Now the new players that use the new firmware probably changed the protocol for firmware operations. Wire, the creator of the firmware tools said that he'll release a new version for v9 players but he said that an year ago and nothing was actually released. I have a thought that this tool will never come.

Try to use s1clone, that one will not search only for the firmware in the chip, it will dump all the contents. Also, the hardware compatibility issues are bullshit.... I tried to clone my own player before f/w and when I tried to restore the same image it said it's a different player. And I'm not the only who had this problem. Could you please share the clone file? Maybe I can extract the firmware with a hex editor.

scatwell 6th Aug 2007 3:55 am

Quote:

Originally Posted by alex2pb
The thing is that firmwares above 9.0.43 cannot be extracted :(. It seems that your friend used s1fwx to extract it but it won't work. The old firmware was written to a special location in the flash (at the beginning) and the size could be read. Now the new players that use the new firmware probably changed the protocol for firmware operations. Wire, the creator of the firmware tools said that he'll release a new version for v9 players but he said that an year ago and nothing was actually released. I have a thought that this tool will never come.

Try to use s1clone, that one will not search only for the firmware in the chip, it will dump all the contents. Also, the hardware compatibility issues are bullshit.... I tried to clone my own player before f/w and when I tried to restore the same image it said it's a different player. And I'm not the only who had this problem. Could you please share the clone file? Maybe I can extract the firmware with a hex editor.

Here is the link. http://www.megaupload.com/?d=ZERRXEER
This is the s1clone from the "hacked" 1GB model marketed as 2GB, as received from Hong Kong. I believe the player is now "unhacked" and I hope to get another s1clone image soon, and will be happy to upload it.
Good luck with this. You're into realms far beyond me with a hex editor.
Also, just wondering if anyone knows how the flash is hacked to make it look like 2GB rather than 1GB? On basis that maybe recloning would work with a hacked player better than a dehacked one??
Regds

alex2pb 6th Aug 2007 6:25 am

Re: IT's ALIVE, IT's ALIVE
 
Hi scatwell :). Thanks for the link. If it's ok I can add it to my glacier and alike repair guide. About the hack, I did a little bit of research and in my opinion it's not the sellers that hack the firmwares. It seems that the factory does that. Here's why I think that: The firmware is made by a few files which are all put in 1 file. Those files are mainly the music player, the recorder, the radio, etc. Those are all the programs the main kernel executes when you access the menu items. Somewhere between these files, there's the bootloader and a driver (I guess) that holds the flash type. The kernel (the main program) loads this driver and executes it. Now, depending on the chip inside, it will choose the proper driver program for the flash. Here's the tricky part. Whoever produces these players and has the sourcecode for the firmware, forces the kernel to load a higher capacity flash driver and the player reports a higher capacity.

I am still trying to get the firmware out from the clone file, but I am not sure it's possible. I'll report back if i get it to work.

Thanks again for the clone file.

scatwell 7th Aug 2007 2:18 am

Quote:

Originally Posted by alex2pb
Hi scatwell :). Thanks for the link. If it's ok I can add it to my glacier and alike repair guide. About the hack, I did a little bit of research and in my opinion it's not the sellers that hack the firmwares. It seems that the factory does that. Here's why I think that: The firmware is made by a few files which are all put in 1 file. Those files are mainly the music player, the recorder, the radio, etc. Those are all the programs the main kernel executes when you access the menu items. Somewhere between these files, there's the bootloader and a driver (I guess) that holds the flash type. The kernel (the main program) loads this driver and executes it. Now, depending on the chip inside, it will choose the proper driver program for the flash. Here's the tricky part. Whoever produces these players and has the sourcecode for the firmware, forces the kernel to load a higher capacity flash driver and the player reports a higher capacity.

I am still trying to get the firmware out from the clone file, but I am not sure it's possible. I'll report back if i get it to work.

Thanks again for the clone file.

I'm sure you're correct that the factory puts the hack in. It's also quite likely the sellers do not have any links to the firmware fixes/upgrades.

I'm hoping to receive a 550MB file which is an s1clone of the dehacked player. Not sure how I will get it to you if it arrives but maybe it'll zip down smaller.

Thx for your interest. Good luck with trying to extract f/w.

alex2pb 7th Aug 2007 11:19 am

Re: IT's ALIVE, IT's ALIVE
 
That's nice. I suggest you use 7-zip to pack the file. I compressed a ~200 mb file down to 8 mb with it. What you need is to use the ultra level and put the dictionary to 48 mb or bigger (but you'll need a good computer with lots of RAM memory). Here I couldn't even move the mouse while compressing (only 384 mb of ram).

Btw, good news, I found 2 new glacier firmwares and one of them is 9.1.5.1 :). I'll make those available as soon as I can.

hsals666 8th Aug 2007 12:12 am

hi im having problems recovering my mp4 player
because when i try to press the recover firmware button in mp3 update tool it stops and says "Read or write device information failed! Please exit the program and check if device is connecting!" sometimes "Flash Is No Responding" and "Unknown Flash Error" what should i do?
ive tried so many version of mp3 player utilities

scatwell 8th Aug 2007 3:20 am

Re: IT's ALIVE, IT's ALIVE
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by alex2pb";p=&quot (Post 34321)
That's nice. I suggest you use 7-zip to pack the file. I compressed a ~200 mb file down to 8 mb with it. What you need is to use the ultra level and put the dictionary to 48 mb or bigger (but you'll need a good computer with lots of RAM memory). Here I couldn't even move the mouse while compressing (only 384 mb of ram).

Btw, good news, I found 2 new glacier firmwares and one of them is 9.1.5.1 :). I'll make those available as soon as I can.

S1clone will be compressed & uploaded as soon as I get it (if I get it!). In meantime, any chance of the 9.1.51 - is it full version?

alex2pb 8th Aug 2007 10:00 am

Re: IT's ALIVE, IT's ALIVE
 
Yup, I added it and other 3 new firmwares in the guide and uploaded it. You should get RevC from the downloads section.

@hsals666
Read "Issue3" in the guide i made.

hsals666 8th Aug 2007 10:11 am

where is the guide?

alex2pb 8th Aug 2007 11:27 am

Re: IT's ALIVE, IT's ALIVE
 
Here it is: Glacier Repair Toolkit RevC.

hsals666 8th Aug 2007 11:47 am

what is the revc for?

the guide is for glacier only?

alex2pb 8th Aug 2007 11:55 am

Re: IT's ALIVE, IT's ALIVE
 
RevC means revision c, that is the version of the guide.

Portions of the guide may apply to different players too...For example Issue3 applies to all players. But the firmware in the pack not. That is only meant for Glacier and alike players, so don't use it if you have a different one.

hsals666 8th Aug 2007 9:37 pm

okay i let you know if the guide helped me..thanks


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