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Old 9th Mar 2007, 11:34 am
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I think you'll have to cite where you are getting your source of information on this, because I can't even find a 500ma stand alone charger for the Nokia bl4c. The closest I found was this, and I'm not sure if it needs to be plugged into the phone, because the ad is so uninformative:

http://cgi.ebay.com/Universal-batter...QQcmdZViewItem
I know as i sell a lot of these on my site and i pack them specially with 500ma 2pin chargers, they come from the factory with 3pin 500ma chargers and it's the manufacturer that has informed me that the 'glacier' type player must use 500ma charger or above.

Some can charge with the standard 200-300ma charger BUT it will degrade your battery very fast as it cannot give a proper charge to the battery.

I am unsure about a standalone charger for just the battery, you will probably need to search for Nokia accessories for that.

The admins know i run a site that sells mp4, so what i am saying isn't being pulled out of my backside.
That's funny because my Glacier which I bought directly from Uxcell came w/ the 200-300 mA charger.

Question: Is Uxcell the Manufacturer of the Glacier?
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I think you'll have to cite where you are getting your source of information on this, because I can't even find a 500ma stand alone charger for the Nokia bl4c. The closest I found was this, and I'm not sure if it needs to be plugged into the phone, because the ad is so uninformative:

http://cgi.ebay.com/Universal-batter...QQcmdZViewItem
I know as i sell a lot of these on my site and i pack them specially with 500ma 2pin chargers, they come from the factory with 3pin 500ma chargers and it's the manufacturer that has informed me that the 'glacier' type player must use 500ma charger or above.

Some can charge with the standard 200-300ma charger BUT it will degrade your battery very fast as it cannot give a proper charge to the battery.

I am unsure about a standalone charger for just the battery, you will probably need to search for Nokia accessories for that.

The admins know i run a site that sells mp4, so what i am saying isn't being pulled out of my backside.
What you're saying about the Glacier chargers not being strong enough to properly charge the batteries is, I suppose, worth considering, since many including me, have had battery problems with the Glacier. On the other hand, I consider that the standalone charger I recently got is 250mah, and seems to charge quite well (it just wont charge my dead Nokia). So where do we get these 500mah 2pin or 3pin standalone chargers you say you include with your Glaciers?

CFT: Does the 800mah chargers you found on eBay require owning a Nokia phone? If not, then what kind of power supply do they require? (I kept emailing seller after seller asking them this question, and none were able to give me a clear & proper answer as to what the voltage of the adapter is required to be, and whether it can be a standard walwart adapter or if it must be specifically for a nokia phone).
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Old 9th Mar 2007, 4:49 pm
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michiganjfrog : This travel charger came with my Nokia 3120 when i bought. I am giving the details:

Nokia ACP-12A
Input : AC 100-240V 50-60HZ, 150ma
Output: DC 5.7V, 800ma

If you dont have a Nokia phone which is using bl-5c or bl-4c, you can get this charger and also you have to get that desktop charger kit from ebay to charge battery without phone. On ebay, most desktop chargers dont come with power supply, so you still need a travel charger to connect to desktop charger kit.

bl-4c batteries have 720mah output so I dont think these standart mp3 wall chargers can charge your battery properly.

So forget the mp3/mp4 player accessories, assume you have only a Nokia bl-4c battery in your hand, and try to find a way to charge with Nokia accessories. Thats better.

An example, you can try to find old nokia phones (bl-4c, bl-5c) with original chargers from ebay. They may be faulty, doesnt matter, just enough if they charge the battery properly.

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That's funny because my Glacier which I bought directly from Uxcell came w/ the 200-300 mA charger.

Question: Is Uxcell the Manufacturer of the Glacier?
I doubt it, they probably buy it from factories like i do, there are many factories in China that produce the exact same players, the main difference is in the quality of the manufacturing.

Where to buy 500ma chargers, i sell them on my website, you can probably get them on ebay or do a search on froogle.
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That's funny because my Glacier which I bought directly from Uxcell came w/ the 200-300 mA charger.

Question: Is Uxcell the Manufacturer of the Glacier?
I doubt it, they probably buy it from factories like i do, there are many factories in China that produce the exact same players, the main difference is in the quality of the manufacturing.

Where to buy 500ma chargers, i sell them on my website, you can probably get them on ebay or do a search on froogle.
The charger on your site, mp4nation, looks exactly like the 200-300mah chargers that come with the Glacier, but it says its rated at 500mah. However, since it doesn't appear to charge the battery directly, isn't it still using the Glacier to charge the battery? If it still uses the Glacier to charge and the Glacier is known to have problems charging, I'm wondering if it'd make any difference that the power source is rated at 500mah?
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That's funny because my Glacier which I bought directly from Uxcell came w/ the 200-300 mA charger.

Question: Is Uxcell the Manufacturer of the Glacier?
I doubt it, they probably buy it from factories like i do, there are many factories in China that produce the exact same players, the main difference is in the quality of the manufacturing.

Where to buy 500ma chargers, i sell them on my website, you can probably get them on ebay or do a search on froogle.

Still you have not shown me any proof that charging the battery w/ a 200-300 mA charger will cause damage to the battery.
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The charger on your site, mp4nation, looks exactly like the 200-300mah chargers that come with the Glacier, but it says its rated at 500mah. However, since it doesn't appear to charge the battery directly, isn't it still using the Glacier to charge the battery? If it still uses the Glacier to charge and the Glacier is known to have problems charging, I'm wondering if it'd make any difference that the power source is rated at 500mah?
A 500mA and the 300mA wall chargers do look the same, they also look the same as a 1000ma charger also, it's what is inside that is different.

The reason people are having problems charging the 'glacier' is specifically due to the charger, get a 500mA charger and your problem will be solved! I've sold a couple of hundred of these exact players and only with the first 5 did i get reports with problems with charging and that was because i had sent them with a 300mA charger, the problem was solved when i sent them the 500mA charger and since never had any issues with 'Glacier' type player.

The problem, for whatever reason, is almost limited to the Glacier type player, other players that use Nokia style battery don't need a 500mA charger.
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Still you have not shown me any proof that charging the battery w/ a 200-300 mA charger will cause damage to the battery.
...are you kidding, look at how many people are having charging issues with 'Glacier' players bought from UXcell, i've sold hundreds and only had 5 reports of problems with charging, those were the first 5 i sold and i had sent them with a 300ma charger.

This is my last post on this topic:

If you use a charger of less than 500mA with a GLACIER type player, you will degrade (or be unable to charge) your battery, which can ruin the actual player. To fix this problem, get a 500mA or above charger.

I am not here trying to put Uxcell down or put up my business, i am trying to help you all. In the end it doesn't matter to me if you take my advice or not (as i assume none of you with issues with your glacier bought from me) i won't have to deal with any returns or have to fix/replace your players.
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Still you have not shown me any proof that charging the battery w/ a 200-300 mA charger will cause damage to the battery.
...are you kidding, look at how many people are having charging issues with 'Glacier' players bought from UXcell, i've sold hundreds and only had 5 reports of problems with charging, those were the first 5 i sold and i had sent them with a 300ma charger.

This is my last post on this topic:

If you use a charger of less than 500mA with a GLACIER type player, you will degrade (or be unable to charge) your battery, which can ruin the actual player. To fix this problem, get a 500mA or above charger.

I am not here trying to put Uxcell down or put up my business, i am trying to help you all. In the end it doesn't matter to me if you take my advice or not (as i assume none of you with issues with your glacier bought from me) i won't have to deal with any returns or have to fix/replace your players.
So your reason is based solely on your experience and have no real proof. Ok
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So your reason is based solely on your experience and have no real proof. Ok
Fine don't believe me, but i am sure you will be out one mp4 player soon enough, enjoy, hope you can get it replaced from uxcell when it happens.

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