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18th Jul 2006 9:46 pm

Battery Charge Problem?
 
hey i just got my pink ipod nano clone mp4 player off of ebay

i used it and the thing is amazing and love it so much except its battery finally ran out so i plug it into the computer to recharge and wait for hours and take it out and the battery is still low and will only play for 6 minutes

ive tried the wall charger and different usb cables

is it possible my battery is messed up and i need a new one? :( will i hav to return my mp4 player. i have been waiting for weeks for this thing and now im having problems this really sux.

please any advice would be greatly appreciate

tadad1 18th Jul 2006 10:10 pm

Guest, If you have tried the charger and another USB cord the only other thing I can think of is the player must be turned on for it to charge, otherwise it is a faulty player and you should contact the seller for repair or refund.

18th Jul 2006 10:18 pm

Re: Battery Charge Problem?
 
last thing i will try is leave it having a long song playing while it charges

if it still doesnt work i guess i will have to return it :cry: such a shame, i love this thing.

18th Jul 2006 10:31 pm

Re: Battery Charge Problem?
 
So far, success seems to be happening :lol:

I have been sitting here listening to a very long dj set i uploaded to the mp3 player while the usb cable is plugged in. i unplugged it for a second and the battery bar is 1/4 full. i also took it apart earlier and smushed the battery in tighter

hopefully it shall charge the whole way i will let you know

tadad1 18th Jul 2006 10:34 pm

Guest, When you plug the player in it should show a connection screen and there should be a little battery indicator that displays an animation while the battery is charging. If the screen goes into sleep mode and turns off that is ok and it should come out of sleep mode when you push a button and still be charging.

18th Jul 2006 10:41 pm

Re: Battery Charge Problem?
 
yes it did have that screen and the sleep mode and it was still not charging at all before.

it seem to only be working when i leave songs playing on it now while it charge.

i am hoping it will charge to more than a 1/4 on the indicator

-nikki

18th Jul 2006 11:10 pm

Re: Battery Charge Problem?
 
it is another success to be noted

i unplugged usb again to see that it has blinked at half-way mark on the indication but has not stayed at half yet

but it seem to becoming more charged

i will leave usb plugged in and song running overnight to hopefully have it attain a charge of full

i will inform you

-nikki

tadad1 18th Jul 2006 11:12 pm

nikki, will keep my fingers crossed.

19th Jul 2006 12:15 am

Re: Battery Charge Problem?
 
excellence!!! thank you tadad for recommending to leave it on and have the songs play when i recharge i think the method is working as the indicator is now 3/4 full

i am very happy that the mp4 player does not need a return :lol: hopefully this is luck that will continue.

- nikki

19th Jul 2006 1:08 am

Re: Battery Charge Problem?
 
VERY VERY HAPPY it achieves full charge now i test tomorrow to see battery life length i am pleased the progress is made thank you tadad i am of much relief right now

admin 19th Jul 2006 3:27 am

Guest,

It's strange that you have to leave your player playing though.

It sounds to me that you might hve to check the OFF timer and SLEEP time as what I think is happening could be that your player switches off after a certain time and for some reason, doesn't then charge if it switches off.

Also, when you charge your player, do you use the [on/off] switch to turn it off? You shouldn't need to.

Also, while you left it charging on your computer, was your computer ON? You computer will need to be on to charge the player.

Here's some things to try:
1. Set a time/clock setting in your player.
2. Go into the settings of your player and chance the settings for 'dark', 'darkle', 'sleep' and 'off' time to ZERO instead. This should now disable your player from going to sleep or turning off the screen.
3. Now leave your player charging on your computer. Remember to leave your computer ON as well.

20th Jul 2006 2:04 am

Re: Battery Charge Problem?
 
when charging, does it matter if the screen is showing the mp3 player screen? this is the only way the screen stays on.
if i just plug the usb in, a picture of the mp4 and pc show up with (zzz's) on it, then the screen goes off, is is normal? Also , how long until its fully charged?

tadad1 20th Jul 2006 2:19 am

Guest, it is alright if the screen turns off in fact it is better as the player will charge faster with the screen off. If the MP3 screen is staying on you should go to Settings>LCD Set>Darkle or Black and set the timer for between 5 or 30 seconds then the screen will turn off at the set time conserving the battery. The LCD is proberably the biggest drain on the battery. You may need to set the Power Off setting to 0 as well.

20th Jul 2006 2:25 am

Re: Battery Charge Problem?
 
ok, bit confused now, you say set the lcd timer between 5 or 30 seconds.
but the admin says set it to zero.

tadad1 20th Jul 2006 2:41 am

Guest, The LCD off setting of darkle or black sets the screen to turn off after a certain time, every thing will still be working, music playing etc just the screen goes off. This is to conserve power.
The Power off setting sets the player to turn off if it is inactive for a set period of time. So if it is on and you are not playing any music or activating any buttons it will turn off and you have to hold down the play button to start it again.
As long as the the player is on when charging it does not matter if the screen turns off but if it powers off it may not charge.

Champenois 20th Jul 2006 4:52 am

Re: Battery Charge Problem?
 
tadad1 is exactly right - i am on the chinese mainland, and deal in many different models of mp3 / mp4 players. when you plug your player into your pc or wall power supply, TURN the power switch ON religiously. not doing this causes charging problems with many different models.

20th Jul 2006 5:39 am

Re: Battery Charge Problem?
 
how long do they take to charge fully from flat? i've been charging mine for 3 hours now, and the battery meter is still going up. but if i un-plug it, it says full battery. so does the battery meter stop going up when fully charged?

tadad1 20th Jul 2006 5:47 am

Guest, It depends on the player I have one that keeps showing the charging animation the whole time it is connected while the others stop when the battery is full. A full charge should take 3 - 4 hours depending on the battery size.

tadad1 20th Jul 2006 5:55 am

Champenois, May I ask what is your experience with 4GB and 8GB players, we see so many posts of people buying them and later finding that the true memory size is much smaller. It appears that they have been manipulated in some way so that they are read as having much more storage capacity than really exists. Have you had any experience with players with this problem?
I have seen a photo posted by a member who's player had a board that had provision for a second memory chip which would allow 2x2GB chips for a true 4GB but have never seen any proof that they exist.
Any comments you can make would be most appreciated.

Thanking you in Advance,
Terry

Bleachin 23rd Jul 2006 2:09 pm

Re: Battery Charge Problem?
 
Can somebody help me with my charging problems.

I have let the battery run flat on mine, now it will not switch on at all and when I plug in the usb nothing happens. Does anyone know how to get it to charge? Is there any thing else I can do, cant really return the player as it was baught in singapore and I'm in the UK

TIA

tadad1 23rd Jul 2006 4:22 pm

Bleachin
When you plug it in to the USB the player must be turned on at the switch or it will not charge.
Try another USB port.
If you have a wall charger try that.
If you still have no joy your USB cord may be faulty.

Bleachin 24th Jul 2006 2:22 am

Re: Battery Charge Problem?
 
Thanks.

Just tried all of that with no result.
Just Tried the resetting the dead player and didnt get any response from the machine either.
From reading a little more it appears that I may have fallen victim to the batteries and the specifics of charging.

Does anyone know where to buy a replacement li-ion battery for it. All I know is that its 3.7 v everything else is in chinese on it so I cant get any real details.

Thanks

admin 24th Jul 2006 3:05 am

Bleachin

Just to confirm, you've tried another USB cable as well as a wall charger and it's not charging your player?

If that is the case, seems like a faulty battery.

How long have you had your player?
Has it charged ok in the past?
Has anything been done to it prior to this started happening?

Bleachin 24th Jul 2006 12:26 pm

Re: Battery Charge Problem?
 
Yep tried numerous usb and different computers.

Sadly I have lugged it around SE Asia for 6 weeks with only the demo items on it and with the battery charged as it was. I plugged the USB cable into it while it was on. It showed connected on the screen and appeared to be charging so I left it upon return a few hours later dead.

The most annoying part of it is that I have now looked on E-bay and it looks as though I could have baught it on there for cheaper anyway.

Unless you can think of some other things to try, I'm not holding out much hope.

Thanks for helping though.

Nikki 28th Jul 2006 9:37 pm

Re: Battery Charge Problem?
 
Is it possible for the lithium ion battery to die out after charging it a few times

It was working before when I would charge it while the songs continued playing , while it hooked up by usb to my pc

Now it does not seem to be charging :cry: I opened the mp4 player and smushed the battery in again to make suere and now I am charging and thre battery indicator is showing it charging but when I disconnect the usb I do not see a difference in the indicator

I really do not know whats going on, I hope it will charge and if not then how do I get a new battery? :cry: :cry: :cry:

tadad1 28th Jul 2006 10:09 pm

Nikki, I suppose it could if it were faulty but it should have a life of several hundred charges before it dies. I did a google search for 3.7v Lithium Polymer batteries and the only places I found that sell them are Model Remote control Plane sites as they have the best weight to power ratio but the problem is finding one that will fit into your player as most seem to be slightly larger. You need to find one over about 200mAh to give you any reasonable play time any thing below that will only give you 2 or 3 hours.

You could try a mobile phone repair they may be able to test the battery and offer you solutions.

Nikki 28th Jul 2006 10:33 pm

Re: Battery Charge Problem?
 
thanx tadad this is very upseting as it would not charge before and then i had some success and it charged.. and then now when i hook it to the pc through the usb while the pc is on, it is no longer charging like before

do i hook it up to the computer too much? could that have messed up the battery charging ability

ohhh this is the sucks :cry:

i wil leave it charging overnight again i am hoping it will charge

Nikki 28th Jul 2006 11:05 pm

Re: Battery Charge Problem?
 
nevermind , friend

i have solved the problem :)

it appears that the usb cable supplied was faulty, or the usb port i was using was not good.

i got out a different usb cable and inserted it into a different port. the player has now charged up quickly

i suppose that some players come with poor quality usb cables? and that people who are having battery charge problems should check out their cables and usb ports first - before resorting to a battery change

tadad1 28th Jul 2006 11:14 pm

Nikki, Lithium polymer batteries actually prefer frequent 2 to 4 hour charges rather than running the battery dry and doing a full charge as this puts stress on the battery and can shorten its life. Sorry to hear you are still having probs though from memory your player is only about 2 weeks old.
Try hammering the seller for a replacement because what you are experiencing is not normal for these players.

Ciberhaguen 31st Jul 2006 6:53 pm

I can't recharge the battery of my player
 
I NEED HELP
i cant recharge the battery of my player when i tried to conect to the recharger the charger have the green light but my player said that it have just a half of the battery power
i tried conecting it to the pc y could see and write the data in the player but i coulden't recharge it
then i try to discharge the battery completely and when i did for a few seconds the recharger showed the red light before that it showed the gren light again but the said that have no power in the battery
i tried with an old firmware but hapen the same thing green light but no power

now my player have no poer and i can't rechage it
the battery have this numbres: -WMDC PL402040 +270mAH 0602051
someone can tell me wath thats numbers means

PLEASE SOMEBOBY HELPME i don't know what to do :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry:
sorry for me english im panamenian

tadad1 31st Jul 2006 8:24 pm

Ciberhaguen, Your player must be turned on for the player to recharge. The green light on your charger means that the player is charging, when the player is fully charged the green light will go off or flash. If you are charging from the USB it may take up to 4-6 hours to fully charge your battery.

huskers_75 31st Jul 2006 8:38 pm

Thats weird if it has to be green, when I charge mine the light is always red I have never seen it green, and this is when there is barely any battery life, but it charges it fine

tadad1 31st Jul 2006 9:47 pm

huskers_75
I have 3 chargers and they both have green and red led's, the only difference is on 2 the green light goes out when charged and on the 3rd it flashes. But I am sure there are others nothing about these players seems to be universal.


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