My 4GB+ MP4 Guide on EBAY

princessanne1026 · #11 (**permalink**) 19th Dec 2006, 1:09 pm

Excellent job, michiganjfrog! That review is as thorough as it gets. Are you allowed to blast sellers on there though, because that would be good too.

Oh, and you complained a couple of times about eBay not allowing users to see just the negative feedback. Well, eBay doesn't, but there's this site www.toolhaus.org that I discovered that will - all you have to do is type in the username of the person you want to see and they'll show you all the neutral and negative feedback they've received. Hope I've been helpful

princessanne1026 · #12 (**permalink**) 19th Dec 2006, 1:14 pm

Oh yeah 1 more thing: I strongly encourage everyone on this forum who's an eBay member to vote michiganjfrog's guide helpful, because the more votes it gets, the closer it gets to the top in searches, the more people are likely to see it, and less people will fall prey to scams

fablept · #13 (**permalink**) 19th Dec 2006, 1:17 pm

how many people it suffered by this scam? an estimate...

This is not only on Ebay, also in a portuguese auction site there are many 4GB MP4....i posted some messages warning about the issue, using links to this forum (here is very well explained)...people was starting to have doubts, but i got banned from the site......I send mails to the Site auction to explain the scam, no answer i got.

daveislander · #14 (**permalink**) 20th Dec 2006, 3:33 am

Very well done!! I have added my 'useful' vote on ebay. Lets hope that folk read this before buying and that Ebay dont take exception to your comments and 'lose' the page.
Perhaps the guide should be mentioned on Ebay when you bid on or buy a 4gig player.
Well,,, we can dream can't we?
Dave

michiganjfrog · #15 (**permalink**) 20th Dec 2006, 2:58 pm

daveislander: Thanks for voting "useful" for my guide! And thanks for the idea. When it comes time for me to give elllieshang feedback, (and the seller I bought my Nano case from, and the seller I bought my 2.5mm adapter from), I will mention my guide in there for all feedbacks! I was thinking of mentioning mymxplayer.org, but sorry, can't have room for both! (And the guide mentions this site anyway!)

princessanne1026: Thanks for the critique. Believe me, I wanted to blast individual sellers. I wanted to put an entire blacklist in my guide. I didn't think I could get away with it. I was going to just mention "queenofglitter" as someone who gives retaliatory feedback, but after not seeing my guide in my own myEbay page, I decided to edit it out, to give eBay a harder time of finding reasons to pull my guide. I noticed at least one other mp4 guide reviewer "naming names" of bad sellers. His guide is still up, but I as I am not sure and just starting out, I didn't want to risk it! I put enough stuff about eBay itself to make 'em real nervous about my guide, so I didn't want to push it...

I didn't know that the more votes a guide gets, the closer it gets to the top in searches. So EVERYONE VOTE MY GUIDE USEFUL, EH! Like you say, the more people that see it, the faster this scam will be busted. And thanks for voting, I've now already got 21 helpful out of 21 votes, and am the top 3,733rd guide reviewer! Still can't see my guide on my ebay page or do a search for it though!

Thanks for the tip about toolhaus.org, I had NO idea you could do that on another site!

fablept: Geez, the 4GB scam is a mass conspiracy to defraud the public! If the Portugese auction site is refusing to let users warn other users about the scam, makes you wonder if eBay will do the same, in response to my guide? We'll see!

If they pull it like the Portugese site did yours, I'll force them to tell me exactly why. If they say it contravenes the regs, I'll change it just enough so they can't say that.

It seems that you CAN talk sh*t about eBay and sellers in your guide and not get it pulled! This guy basically rants the entire way through his "guide". It's not really a "guide" at all, its just a rant against eBay for not protecting him and others against a single bad seller!:

http://reviews.ebay.com/EBAY-WHY-WON-apos-T-YOU-HELP-US-RECOVER-FROM-STEVE-LANNI_W0QQugidZ10000000001299726

Here's another guy specifically targeting a seller, who's not in the least bit afraid of a libel suit:

http://reviews.ebay.com/BEWARE-All-Pro-Auto-Mall_W0QQugidZ10000000001603993

lddrizzt1 · #16 (**permalink**) 26th Dec 2006, 6:45 pm

That is a very useful guide.
I voted it helpful.
Let's hope more potential buyers are helped out by it.

rpertusio · #17 (**permalink**) 27th Dec 2006, 6:20 pm

Thanks for taking the time to write a complete guide. (I'm still fighting with 'e-britain' about my '4GB' player.)

I voted it 'Helpful', because it certainly is!

2 notes: The bottom looks cut off (character limit?), and you may wish to keep the text saved somewhere, in case it does get pulled.

- rp

michiganjfrog · #18 (**permalink**) 27th Dec 2006, 10:50 pm

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Originally Posted by rpertusio";p=&quot

Thanks for taking the time to write a complete guide. (I'm still fighting with 'e-britain' about my '4GB' player.)

I voted it 'Helpful', because it certainly is!

2 notes: The bottom looks cut off (character limit?), and you may wish to keep the text saved somewhere, in case it does get pulled.

- rp

Thanks for taking the time to read and vote for it! And thanks for letting me know about the cutoff at the end. It just a couple of words that got cut off, but I have fixed that. Its the part at the end where I referred to the thread here on the Flash chip serials. I originally had the entire list of Flash serials in my guide, but I hit the 20,000 character limit! Oh, and I do have a copy in case it gets pulled, thanks!

tadad1 · #19 (**permalink**) 29th Dec 2006, 2:37 pm

Here is a link to toolhaus.org where you can search for all negative feedback by sellers trading name.
http://toolhaus.org/cgi-bin/negs

tadad1 · #20 (**permalink**) 30th Dec 2006, 3:55 pm

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