My 4GB+ MP4 Guide on EBAY

michiganjfrog · #1 (**permalink**) 18th Dec 2006, 11:05 am

Well, I got tired of waiting for others to do this, so I finally wrote a more complete report on the 4GB problem on eBay. I wonder how long before they pull it? They say you can write "inappropriate remarks" but dont define what that is, which leaves them plenty of leeway. Of course, I HAD to list this and the other mp4 site, although they say you cant put outside links on your guide.....

http://reviews.ebay.com/THE-OFFICIAL-4GB-MP4-PLAYER-SCANDAL-ON-eBAY_W0QQugidZ10000000002547758

Lorne · #2 (**permalink**) 18th Dec 2006, 4:30 pm

I.................
actually read it
twas noize

michiganjfrog · #3 (**permalink**) 18th Dec 2006, 5:47 pm

Damn, it looks like the powers that be pulled my guide already!
I can't find the guide when I do a search for it, and when I log in,
it says I have 0 guides to my name!
What are they doing, monitoring these things every minute?

I want this to stay up so people out there buying 4GB+ players know the score, so any suggestions, let me know! (Maybe even if I take out the link to mympxplayer.org and s1mp3.org they'll still not allow my guide, because of the truth of what it says against eBay!)

I only put it up a few hours ago, and my guide was viewed 49 times already, and 5 out 5 people found it helpful! Maybe that's what's making eBay nervous...

avionik99 · #4 (**permalink**) 18th Dec 2006, 8:01 pm

It is still there as I just followed the link above and read it. You did a great job!!

Dave

tadad1 · #5 (**permalink**) 18th Dec 2006, 8:21 pm

michiganjfrog, Bravo, the post is still up well done.

"VIVA LA REVOLUTION"

michiganjfrog · #6 (**permalink**) 18th Dec 2006, 9:14 pm

I spoke a little too soon... I read some more about their guide policy, and it said that new guides aren't available for searching until 24 hours, so that may be why I was unable to find it in a search, and that MyeBay page listed me as having 0 guides.....

Still, I tried to make it harder for them to remove the guide, by removing all direct links to mympxplayer.org and the s1mp3.org forum. I went around this by saying "do a web search for the mympxplayer site". I hope that people will be competent enough to find these 2 sites on Google anyhow, with the info I provided! (I noticed that some people have guides that mention "mympxplayer(dot)org", and they have gotten away with that....

By the way, I forgot to credit the competent, knowledgable people on this forum, from which I learned many things that I directly included in my "THE OFFICIAL 4GB+ MP4 PLAYER SCANDAL ON eBAY FAQ". Despite taking over 2 hours to write, I cobbled it together pretty quickly, so if anyone finds I was incorrect in any of my statements, feel free to let me know.

zetski210 · #7 (**permalink**) 18th Dec 2006, 10:19 pm

Genius!!!

A friend of mine bought a 4GB and Windows cracked it when she tried to dump more than 1GB on it. After hearing this I was wary and bought a 2GB + SD card one and it seems to be ok.

Schiwi · #8 (**permalink**) 19th Dec 2006, 8:37 am

very good guide! hope that many people read it before they buy

fablept · #9 (**permalink**) 19th Dec 2006, 12:49 pm

why not a lawyer to defend us?
off course each country as it own laws, and ways to resolve things...but since ebay/paypal are not really interested to resolve this situation we need a person, that knows the law to help us, an expert in these international issues.

if we get 100 people, and each pay 5 US dollar, we get 500 US dollars to hire a lawyer... :lol:

michiganjfrog · #10 (**permalink**) 19th Dec 2006, 1:02 pm

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Originally Posted by zetski210";p=&quot

Genius!!!

A friend of mine bought a 4GB and Windows cracked it when she tried to dump more than 1GB on it. After hearing this I was wary and bought a 2GB + SD card one and it seems to be ok.

Wow, really psyched to hear that the guide I wrote 1 day ago has already helped to prevent someone from getting ripped off! I guess it was worth the time spent. Also psyched to see that I alreday now have "Top 5000 Guide Reviewer" next to my userID", and 14 out of 14 already found it helpful! Except ironically, it still says in my ebay page that I wrote 0 guides, and I can't find it in a search! I guess it hasn't registered yet. I wrote a lot of shit against ebay, even went after Meg Whitman the CEO, so I hope they're not going to get Draconian on my ass and use that as an excuse to pull my guide. There's nothing specifically in the rules that say "You can't say anything bad about eBay the company or its management", but since they put "inappropriate remarks", they could use that to mean anything!

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Originally Posted by fablept";p=&quot

why not a lawyer to defend us?
off course each country as it own laws, and ways to resolve things...but since ebay/paypal are not really interested to resolve this situation we need a person, that knows the law to help us, an expert in these international issues.

if we get 100 people, and each pay 5 US dollar, we get 500 US dollars to hire a lawyer... :lol:

Nice thought, but many lawyers charge more than half that just to sit down with you and tell you how much they're going to charge. So I can't imagine any lawyer taking on a large case like this for 5 small; an international lawyer yet. I think the US government is the one to sic on eBay. They're already hounding eBay with issues that may be related to customer protection. I am not in the US and don't know what the proper US agencies are to contact to register complaints against eBay for not doing anything about the 4GB MP4 sellers. Perhaps someone else here does and can post them. With enough pressure from an outside source like the government (or the press), eBay will have no choice but to f**ing do something about this, or face both criminal charges and reduced customer confidence in ebay. Trust me, anything that will hurt ebay's bottom line, they will respond to! They first have to be convinced their bottom line is hurting. Press reports on the 4GB scandal would certainly help in that area.