Player with Nokia-compatible battery - does it deliver ?
 

I need a new MP3-Player and at first I wanted to go for standard stick (Teac MP-222), but while checking out Ebay I saw a huge amount of interesting non-branded players with both video and fm capability and after some research on this topic I stumbled over this board.

So, can anyone tell my if this player http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?...5854&rd=1&rd=1 is decent ? Does it have an 3.5" headphone ? Wich standard Nokia battery does fit ? I like the option of an easily interchangable battery, but maybe there's a different model with better value for money / quality out there.

Thanks

Raider_MXD , it's looks similar to the Glacier that uxcell.com is selling.
It would be impossible to tell of the player's quality from pictures alone.

I did a Babel Fish translation of the ad and found the sentence "High-quality Highpower left-ion-Akku NOKIA compatibly for up to 10 hours play time." So i presume that it is using the replaceable Nokia-type battery. Should be either the BL-5C or BL-4C.

Regarding the earphone socket, you'll need to ask the seller for this.

Yes, seems to be the same model - from the outside at least

True, I thought maybe someone owns the device already

Thanks

Mail is on its way but due to the similarity to the player at uxcell I'd guess its a 3.5

Maybe I should get the device from uxcell, but I fear local customs authorities are not too fond of direct imports from Hong Kong :?

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That's the infamous "Glacier", my friend. Take a gander over to your....LEFT. That's what it looks like in white. The difference between the one you saw on eBay and the one sold by UXcell is about $30US, I'd say. It has a standard 3.5" jack, takes a Nokia BL-4C battery. Legend has it that it might take a Bl-5C, but no one can confirm that for me yet (little point in a Bl-5C if you can't close the cover on the player).

Better value out there? No. Better quality? Yes. What makes the Glacier particularly appealing is the fact that you can replace the battery. You can't do that with 99% of the MP4 players on the market today, and even many mp3 players. If you overlook the dodgy USB connections, the restarts, the staticky FM recordings, the inability to play some mp3, ogg, WMA and WAV files, the inability to correctly play videos that utilize the full size of the screen, the inconsistent quality control and the fact that it might randomly die in about a week's time for no known reason, its really a fantastic player. Get one! I'd say there's about a 38% chance you won't regret it.

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Your a great sales man :) NOTTTTTTT

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michiganjfrog - lol that was HILARIOUS! I'm loving the sarcasm. I take it your glacier hasn't behaved itself yet? Neither has the replacement UXCELL sent me last week. Sometimes it works like a charm, and sometimes I'm plagued with random restarts. Also, I figured out that the battery won't hold a charge unless I completely turn the player off when I'm not using it (using the on/off switch instead of the play/pause button). So yeah, if glaciers only did what they were SUPPOSED to do flawlessly, they would be excellent players!

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Are these Nokia battery powered MP4 players really that bad?

I just bought a 4GB version of ebay earlier today :(
link to auction here

newbielives , it just so happens that the Glaciers are giving alot of problems to some members in here.
In general, there are many other Nokia-battery-based players. Some might have the same problems, some more and some lesser.

Do give us a player review of your purchase. Very interested to know of the real memory capacity. Since the seller stated that there are fake 4GB, whilst theirs are genuine 4GBs.

i have a mp4 player with nokia battery and it gave me a lot of problems but all i did was replace the battery with an original nokia bl-4c and it worked alright and it rocks.

i am planning to buy a Glacier mp4 player too. its not that its giving the people a lot of trouble. its just that this forum is a support forum for people having problems with mp4 players and as a result people come and post their problems and it seems to us like as if all of them are having problems with the Glacier.

there are many people like Que, Hotboxx who have had great experiences with Glacier.

Thanks, I think I got the point ;)

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So what is the battery life on these Nokia-battery-based players exactly?

the one which comes with the player should give you about 6-7 hours but if you buy the original nokia battery (bl-4c), you should get double of that

When I get it, I will be sure to give a review.

I plan to copy 5 x 700MB Divx files onto it then to copy them back to my computer.
If the files copied back onto my computer are playable then it should be the real 4GB.

I'm not technical enough to split it open and peak in on the flash memory lol

What scares me right now is that the seller mentions "Caution: Please do not format the player; otherwise, you will loss all files that needs for running of the MP4 player." which may be a cover up to scare ppl from exposing the real memory size.

No. It hasn't behaved itself, I have actually gotten very little use out of it (never taken it outside for example), and have not been able to get it to charge either of my two batteries yet. That's why I kind of have a love/hate relationship with my Glacier right now. PM'ed the UXCell rep here twice, still waiting to hear back, so I don't know when or if I will get a working Glacier. At least while it was alive, I did not experience random restarts. For that I can only suggest you try pulling out the gold pins just a bit, so that they all jut out roughly equally, and/or placing a sheet of paper under the battery at the opposite side of the pins, to make a tighter fit when the lid is closed.

Given the low low price of true BL-4C's on eBay, I don't see why they don't just supply original BL-4C's in their players, price the units a few bucks more, make more people happy and eliminate a lot of costly problems for themselves as well. The knockoffs they supply with the units are clearly inferior quality, and I noticed the gold contact plates are not as evenly aligned as on my original Nokia battery. All the problems with the Glacier can be solved with some redesign and improvements are easy. If left in my hands, and it were up to me, it'd be an Ipod Killer in about 24 hrs. Most people would gladly pay the slight increase in price. You could have two models for those that won't: Present Flawed Glacier, and Glacier Deluxe by Michigan J. Frog!

As for the discharging unless you completely turn it off, that's normal with many mp4 players. Some discharge more than others apparently. It's the reason I decided against getting a Clix, which itself was an alternative to getting a Glacier. Its rated 25 hours went down to a pitiful 3 over the course of 3 days, if you didn't completely turn it off. And the catch was, you couldn't completely turn it off. Problem is if you turn off these players completely , you lose your settings. So its always a decision between losing battery life or losing settings.

I bought another Glacier for a friend, and no problems reported yet, but then she hasn't used it for much more than 10 minutes, I think. Hasn't even formatted yet and is afraid of doing so, because I explained that I had problems trying to format mine. I really wanted to get a third Glacier for another friend before mine totally broke down and refused to charge any batteries, but decided against it since I did not know yet what kind of support I'd get from UX on my dead Glacier, or how reliable they are in the long term. I don't like to take chances with other people's money. I ordered instead another deluxe Full Metal Platinum for her from UXcell, because I was impressed by the first one I bought, and other than the disappointing 3 hour battery life, didn't have any real problems with it.





That's right! I read that in the Glacier manual about not formatting the player, and so naturally, the first thing I did was format the unit. Happy to say its a true 2GB. I'm sure you're technical enough to low level format your 4GB using MP3 Player Disk Tool (step by step instructions included on this site in the hacked player thread), and that would be the best thing to do before you copy the files.

I wanted to buy some Creative EP630's on eBay recently. After seeing a seller mention in his ad that he is selling original EP630's and how to spot a fake (ipod earbuds), and after confirming he is selling fakes, I don't trust anything anyone says on eBay. I have in fact, found that every single seller selling Ep630's are fraudsters selling fakes! You can not buy real Ep630's right now there, in their original packaging.


Isn't Que the person who had to return two of his Glaciers as both died on him within days?

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Yup, sure was. Last I heard, he finally got his glaciers back but they were still presenting problems. I really want to give glaciers the benefit of the doubt, but after seeing all the problems people, including myself, have had with them, I'm afraid I'll just have to write them off as unreliable. There were one or two people who haven't had any problems with theirs, but I guess that they're just the lucky ones. Anyway, I'll try pulling the gold pins out and see if that works. For now I've basically abandoned the glacier and am relying on a rockchip player I got because it's so much better.

Yes, that was me. Got 2 other players back, but the same static in radio recording too as the ones returned (that died both btw) no european chargers and 1 charger dead. It's just not a top quality product, but you can't seem to expect that for that price. I enjoy the player anyhow, just not with classical or quiet music because of the cpu distortion. I don't leave home without it.

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Princessanne could you please post a link to where you bought your rockchip player

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Sure I got it here:
[web:b0643062bf]http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ih=004&sspagename=STRK%3AME WN%3AIT&viewitem=&item=140070718513&rd=1&rd=1[/web:b0643062bf]
It was 512mb which is basically nothing, but I plan to expand it later with a mini-sd card. Aside from the UGLY firmware (the main screen is hideous), it's excellent. Multitasking, file browsing, user EQ, and just so much faster than actions chipset players. I highly recommend it. Here's two other pics for good measure:
http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b1...6/SP_A0197.jpg
http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b1...6/SP_A0203.jpg

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Thanks! I will do more homework on these rockchip players