OGG

deepakrr · #1 (**permalink**) 5th Feb 2007, 5:10 am

I tried converting my mp3 files of cd quality to ogg using Media Monkey but i found that the volume in the ogg files were just too low even when played on the computer (even lower than wma and the original mp3 files. i tried converting both before and after normalizing but no difference)

But when i looked on the internet, everywhere its written that ogg is better than mp3 and wma.

So whats the problem? Am i doing something wrong like using a bad encoder or are ogg files supposed to be like this?

lattesurf · #2 (**permalink**) 5th Feb 2007, 5:47 am

deepakrr , i've not encoded in .ogg before. But perhaps you can try to increase the volume level first, that would be the first encoding. Next, encode to .ogg and see if the volume is louder this time.

deepakrr · #3 (**permalink**) 5th Feb 2007, 5:58 am

how much should i increase the volume because i dont want to clip the audio and cause noise distortions in the background

lattesurf · #4 (**permalink**) 5th Feb 2007, 6:06 am

deepakrr , hmm.. maybe try to compare the original mp3 file with the ogg file.
For example if the current mp3's volume is at 5/10, and the ogg needs to increase to around 8/10 to have the same output volume, perhaps you can try increasing it by about 30%.
Though you'll need to experiment with various values to increase the volume. 30% might be too high and cause distortions.

Or maybe even try another audio encoder, it might be the Media Monkey's way of encoding ogg (by reducing output volume), i'm not sure.

i'll test the ogg thing on my encoder and see how it works.

lattesurf · #5 (**permalink**) 5th Feb 2007, 7:38 am

deepakrr , i've tested by converting an mp3 to .ogg with 128kbps as maximum. The resultant ogg file is only very slightly lower in volume. Not very significant, perhaps lesser than 10% loss in volume level.

I'm using Easy CD-DA Extractor v4.5. Comes with CD ripper, file converter, and CD burner. Not very sure if it is still available, as this version of mine was from about 6 years ago, and still using it.. :lol:

deepakrr · #6 (**permalink**) 5th Feb 2007, 4:56 pm

thanks for your time latte.

i think i will stick with wma. i have this wma converter from microsoft which converts mp3 files to wma at half the bit rate and as a result half the file size but the quailty and volume are excellent and same.

i think the problem with ogg is that i am converting a lossy codec (mp3) to another (ogg) which is causing me a lot of loss in volume.

thanks once again

daveislander · #7 (**permalink**) 6th Feb 2007, 5:02 am

I also converted to OGG and managed to get loads more on my player.. the only problem I had is that the actual conversion took 1:1 time to complete... A 3:45 track took 3:45 to convert.. not being the most patient of folk, I gave up and reverted. I also noticed a small decrease in volume that was easily resolved with a bit of playing with settings.
Overall, I doubt there is any real benefit from using OGG.. it's just nice to try something different for a change.