2nd Gen Nano Clones - Click Wheel?
 

Has anyone seen a 2nd gen Nano clone that has a click wheel that works like the original Apple Nano instead of just having four push buttons?

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Funny. I'm looking at a picture of one right now! So yes, they do exist. Whether anyone is selling them yet is another question. I didn't find anything on ebay or anywhere else I looked. I'll be uploading the file I have in a minute so you can see for yourself.

as far as i know this does not exist - would cost too much to implement and these players are cheap for quick sale and mass production
be interested to see your player Amigajoe

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http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c9...joe/Touch1.jpg
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c9...joe/Touch2.jpg

-Since they take the trouble to distinguish the 'Normal' from 'Touch Wheel ' models, I can only assume that it means what it says...

BTW, this is from the wholesale price list I mentioned in another post, that's why they're so cheap.;-) I'll be placing an order in about a week. Anybody interested, lemme know...

i would say do not be fooled

this looks like standard nano clone to me

i would bet my player collection that this is not touch like an ipod but just normal buttons

seller of these devices will say anything to get you to but them and what exactly does "touch wheel" really mean - any wheel can be touched, you have to touch the wheel to click the buttons - now i am not being rude here this is what they would say if you complained to them that they were not like an ipod touch wheel.

"copy and paste" - this is in high practice on these type of sites, they probably grabbed the info from some other place - if you think they are touch wheel like ipod then do not buy them in wholesale - order a sample first, if they wont sell you a sample then go else where
buy 1 sample and be sure

this seems to be the site your player originates from
nano2e player with a wheel

i would not trust anything they say as on their front page the first image they show is a real ipod - they do not sell them!!!
why would you buy these any way, why not follow the trend and get some 3rd gen nano clones instead

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Yes, that's it. I AM getting some 3rd gens, but these are still popular as well, and you can't beat the price. I'm getting a mix of players, and I'm definitely getting some of these touch models. It'll be a big selling point if they work like a real Apple click-wheel, and I think technology has reached the point where it economical for the knock-off mfg's to do it by now. Oh well, Caveat emptor. Even if I'm wrong I'll still make a profit! ;-)

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"Touch Wheel"

My Chipod has a touch wheel too. You can touch up, down, left, and right! :lol:

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Amigajoe,

When you get your order in, if the menu wheel does work like the Apple Nano I may well be interested in buying one from you. Let me know when you get one in your hands.

Leo

Will do...

does it work exactly like ipod i.e. can you run your finger around to make the menus go up and down etc

i bet i know what they have done

they may have taken the heat touch technology from LG and also found on the teclast players and put it under the wheel, Brew Swillis can you confirm, so each button becomes touch sensitive but it would not be true touch wheel in the ipod sense

sorry amigajoe i may have been partially wrong but in this cheap chinese mp4 market you kind of take everything the sellers and wholesellers say with a large pinch of salt

The Apple clickwheel would likely be based on something like a laptop's mouse touchpad. If you noticed, the ipod scrolling goes much faster when you scroll your finger at a faster rate.

So if you scrolled slowly for 1 round, you might scroll through perhaps 15songs. But if you did it in a single fast motion, you'll probably scroll through 50songs. Works the same as a laptop.

Would be very interested to know of the real clone's "clickwheel" technology.

I'm sorry if you didn't get my joke. I was joking that the Chinese manufacturer was calling it a touch wheel, because you have to touch it to press up, down, left, or right. Kinda like when they say 8GB, but they mean gigabit, knowing all too well that people will misunderstand what they are saying. I'm pretty sure they won't ever have a touch sensitive "click wheel" like Apple's.

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I just got one of these unit, and sorry to say....

It's still just a click wheel, with no wheel action :cry: I got it because it looks so much nicer than the 1'st generation ones. Also because the other unit I had didn't have any battery management (Sleep/off mode) drained battery so if I left it "soft off" over night the unit was useless in the morning.

Has 4 games and different record mode options. Sadly I still can't backup the firmware since it's too new still 9.1.52. 2 G's, and they call them MP4's cause I'm not 100% sure, but the AMV format is MP4 compression.

I don't think there has been any real documentation on the AMV format. Trying to get away from M$, and no real Linux version is available for the AVI to AMV conversion.

Other than that not much new except that the usb is a larger plug, and the earplug is 3.5mm and not 2.5mm :)

Screen is OLED as well so it's brighter too.

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sumbody


-I don't think you have the model we're talking about. All the nano clones look pretty much alike. As I said, I haven't seen it for sale anywhere yet. The difference between it and the regular model isn't something you can see, it would have to specifically say 'touch' on the packaging somewhere, I think...

i agree totally

you - you little joker you!!

but amiga joe uploaded a price list from his supplier that shows image of fake nano 2 with 2 descriptions, normal and touch wheel - what this exactly means is anyones guess

Come to think about it, the "clickwheel" that the clones advertise to be might likely be a touch-sensitive one like makd511 mentioned. So basically it might just be the same 4 directions, without the actual button clicking, but rather touch sensitive pads.

Still might not have the apple clickwheel technology of scrolling round though.

Hae a look at the model OEM Nano II with touch wheel via the below video:
http://www.yzdigital.com/mov/nano2t.htm

You will fine it is a true touch wheel with high quality.

yzdigital , from the video i don't see the "clickwheel" function. i see the thumb moving round the pad during the video playback, but the time counter still runs as normal, the video does not fast-forward or backwards?

What does touch wheel function do? Is it the same as Apple's clickwheel? Or is it a touch sensitive pad for the 4 buttons Menu, <<, >>, and Play/Pause?

Thanks for your attention.
When my thumb moving round the pad during the video playback, it control the volume.

And you also can moving round the pad to change the menu.

im stll not convinced here, hard to really tell what is happening in the video, it seems to me that whilst the thumb is moving around the wheel it does not actually do anything until it reaches an actual "button" which would indicate my original thoughts on touch sensitive button and not a true scroll wheel -

if this is so its an interesting attempt to emulate the ipod wheel but this is also what annoys me about the clone market - it is never really clear what it actually does - and this is of course done on purpose,

so much can be read into the words "touch wheel", put this "touch wheel" text next to the pic of nano clone and instantly people think its totally like an ipod

better video needed please with better lighting on the wheel and lets see you scroll a menu with the wheel going fast with the thumb

nice of you to get involved though YZDigital

Thanks!
Will give another clear video about the touch wheel later.

I too agree with makd511 and lattesurf.

Seems more like a 'touch' type and that the menus changed when the thumb actually touch over the <<and>> buttons. The click wheel on an iPod moves along the menus with each movement around the wheel and not just at the <<and>> buttons.

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The new video about touch wheel and hope it is clear enough:
http://www.yzdigital.com/mov/nano2t-3.htm

As a paid in full, card carrying sceptic when it comes to all things chipod I would have to agree with "makd511".

It appears to me from the video that a fair amount of pressure is being applied to the so called "clickwheel" at the << >> points as the thumb is scrolled around. It is also only at these points that we see the volume changes.

I find I can emulate the video with a standard clone just by doing the same at the appropriate points as my thumb moves around.

once again YZ thanks for the video
but i am afraid i am still not convinced this is a rue ipod style wheel
i see what you are doing in the video and it certainly looks as though it works in a similar way but i am sure that, underneath the wheel is noting more than touch sensitive buttons like on teclast players etc..

you will forgive our skepticism on this site but we are used to claims on these players being some what exaggerated or even totally false (fake memory size is a biggee)

if you truly have an ipod like touchwheel in this device then send one to admin on this site and let him review it, it would do you no harm to do this and would be great for you as a supplier to have the seal of approval from this very respected site

BTW one of the reasons people on this site are a little wary of claims like this is demonstrated on your web site on the following page about the model M2003

http://www.yzdigital.com/ProductsView.Asp?id=53

here you show a pic of a meizu M6 and right below that pic a different player altogether.

things like this make us suspect people like you are not as honest as you may be. i suggest you take your own pics of your players rather than picking up images that we have seen all over the web for last couple of years

Thanks for your suggestion.
We will update the pic on the website with the pics of our products :-)

Yikes! I didn't expect you guys to weigh in personally on this issue. Welcome YZ! Personally, I'm convinced that the pad works as advertised. I'll definitley be including some in my order. Thanks for speaking up, Zoe.

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ok here are the pictures. It's 6.5 mm width, and the screen is 4.5 cm diagonal which roughly equates to 1.77 inches.

http://www.geocities.com/psx_play500...d/chipod_l.jpg

http://www.geocities.com/psx_play500...ipod_width.jpg

Looks pretty darn close. Rounded corners, so not flat like the 1st generation ones. Sorry about the size, not used to posting images

Actually by the ruler in the pic I can see that the player is exactly 8mm thick so it's definitely not what we're discussing since that one is 6.5mm. I'll post a report once I receive mine.

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This is the picture about the thickness of our Nano 2 style MP4 with touch wheel for your reference.
http://www.ad2w.com/t/nano-65mm.jpg

The solution is ROCKCHIP and it is better than ACTION solution.

:) :) :) :) :) :) :) :)

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ROCKCHIP!!!

are you sure???

this just keeps getting weirder by the minute

i have never seen a rockchip used in a nano clone before

you got to send one of these to admin to check out

good quality pics by the way, should be good when you take your own pics for your web site eh!!!

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Yes, It is rockchip, and quality is better than before.
It can not hack memory capacity as rockchip solution.
These are pictures of our player.

http://www.ad2w.com/t/600x450-pcb.jpg[hr:147e9c2269]
http://www.ad2w.com/t/600x450-pcb2.jpg

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YZDigital what payment methods do you accept?

thanks for the pics YZ

yep - rockchip indeed

and i also see that the board for the keypad says "Apple key v.4" which seems to indicate that it is indeed what you have been saying - its a real ipod touch wheel!! (apologies for doubting) -

does this factory that produce these have permission to use these touch boards from apple - seems a little odd to have an actual patented piece of apple hardware in a clone of one of their own players!!!

only BIG let down is the 230 mAh battery, not the best

Actually, if you see the first picture with the front of the keypad, it shows 5 points. It looks to be touch sensitive, something like typical 5 button players, but only with touch sensitive pads.

Does not seem to be the Apple Clickwheel, where the touch pad should be a circular ring able to track the finger movement.

nzer_4_lyf, our payment term is T/T or western union in advance
And we delivery the package by DHL.

And for the battery, it can't be bigger since the scrren is too big(1.8'').

yes, the 1st pic does look like touch "pads"
after i posted my reply i went and had a look at the touch wheel in ipods and it is as you say a circular ring with the tracking electronics on the back of the wheel itself

so what, in the pics, is "apple key v4.0"

this device just gets more and more confusing

BATTERY
does this make sense in general (not just this player)

larger screen takes more space
larger screen needs more power

so the solution is to put in a lower power battery!!!

never really understood this

my 2nd gen clone(s) (actions based) had 230 mAh battery and lasted no time at all - rubbish - 3-4 hours play time only if that

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YZDigital why don't you accept Credit Card payments via PayPal or MoneyBookers? If you did a lot more people would purchase from you.

nzer_4_lyf,

I think that's because they are a manufacturer more than a retailer or online store.

I've found pretty much all the manufacturers use TT (Telegraphic Transfer) or Western Union as payment and have a minimum quantity order.

If you check the price list the minimum regular order is 100 pcs. They also do a min. 20 pc sample
order, which is what I'm doing. There will be 5 of these puppies (2Gb) in there. ;-) Maybe if we put together a group order and ask real nice YZ might work some kind of deal for the board...?