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Brew Swillis 20th Oct 2007 6:44 pm

Forget Chipods, I'm getting a 30GB Zune for $99
 
I found this place after I got ripped off on a Chipod nano clone 4GB, that was really a 2GB. Ended up paying $29 after a partial rebate......not too bad.

However, I just found a deal that was too hard to pass up. Buy.com is selling the Brown 30GB Zune MP3 player for $99.99.

http://ak.buy.com/db_assets/prod_lrg.../203171424.jpg

That seems like an awesome price for a 30GB legit MP3 player. If you're interested in buying one, be aware that player will not ship till Nov. 19th. Just thought I'd let you guys know. I'll still use my Chipod for it's size and portability though.

Amigajoe 20th Oct 2007 7:07 pm

Re: Forget Chipods, I'm getting a 30GB Zune for $99
 
That's pretty schweet! Did you pre-order?

DaremoS 20th Oct 2007 7:15 pm

Re: Forget Chipods, I'm getting a 30GB Zune for $99
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Brew Swillis";p=&quot (Post 39326)
However, I just found a deal that was too hard to pass up. Buy.com is selling the brown 30GB Zune MP3 player for $99.00. That seems like an awesome price for a 30GB legit MP3 player. If you're interested in buying one, be aware that player will not ship till Nov. 19th. Just thought I'd let you guys know. I'll still use my Chipod for it's size and portability though.

HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAH.........
LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL.......
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


EDIT...

Sorry!! :oops: :oops: :oops: :oops:

kope007 21st Oct 2007 6:14 am

whats the big giggle for?
I've never had my hands on a zune.
What are they like?
I'm intrested in a large capacity player, but I don't like restrictions as far as grabbing music from a friends comp or giving them stuff from my player.
Are there any third party programs that allow better access to the memory for this type of thing? (like YamiPod for ipod)

DaremoS 21st Oct 2007 7:28 am

Re: Forget Chipods, I'm getting a 30GB Zune for $99
 
Zune is a Microsoft product and it cost about US$ 250.- for 30Gb... do you really think that somebody will send it by US$ 100.-

Come on :D :D :D

EDIT.- Maybe it can be so... but song can be played only 3 times!! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Don't forget chIpod... forget USA garbage!!!... it's just for ass*oles :P :P :P :P

DaremoS 21st Oct 2007 7:40 am

Re: Forget Chipods, I'm getting a 30GB Zune for $99
 
Another goodies of the Zune I've read...

To synchronize the player it's needed a original version of Windows XP (no problem :))... in English!!! (What the f***!!???)... surely have to be Englis USA version.
:D :D :D :D :D :D

gosh I love this copyright paranoid!!!

I really want to be wrong :)

knob 21st Oct 2007 9:12 am

a nice player, maybe, never really looked at it, I personally wouldn't go anywhere near anything that supports DRM.

In fact I'd rather play music on cheap Actions, hacked, chinese ipod clone, than support DRM!

To each his own I suppose :-)

booboo773 21st Oct 2007 9:31 am

The reviews I've read on the Zune didn't impress me. Wi-fi enabled that's sole purpose is to share songs so whoever you send it to can only listen to it for 3 days? Sounds like a lot of extras added onto the player that are totally worthless. I admit, the price is interesting, but there has got to be a catch. I've noticed if you go to Buy.com and click on the See Details Link next to the List Price, I can't read the whole List Price Disclaimer. It cuts off some of the writing and you can't maximize the box to continue reading. Suspicious. Can anyone else read the whole thing?

If the deal sounds too good to be true, it most likely is. I would look long and hard before buying. The low price is guaranteed to get some impulse purchases without research.

booboo773 21st Oct 2007 9:40 am

Never mind, a copy and paste pulled up what I think is all of. Here it is:

"LIST PRICE" is the suggested retail price provided to us by our suppliers. We make no representation that a substantial number of these products have been sold or offered for sale at the list price. Actual retail prices in your area may be substantially different. Because we sell our merchandise over the internet on a national basis, it is not possible to know if our merchandise is sold at list price in any particular location or at any particular time. "YOU SAVE" reflects the difference between our price and the supplier provided list price shown on our sites. Because the list price may be different than the actual retail prices in your area, you may not actually realize a savings of this amount and may want to make an exact comparison for yourself by checking the prices of other internet or local retailers prior to making a purchase.

Hmm, seems I found their loophole. It cuts the disclaimer off at "Because the list price may be different than the actual retails prices in your area, you may..."

Wouldn't be surprised it whoever has ordered this gets another bill for the whole amount. The $99 is most likely a pre-order hold.

Brew Swillis 21st Oct 2007 10:02 am

Re: Forget Chipods, I'm getting a 30GB Zune for $99
 
I don't think there will be a problem with the price. The new Zunes come out on November 12th, and these will ship on November 19th. I'm pretty sure they just want to get rid of the old players when the new players are available. Plus, you can cancel or refuse delivery if they charge you anything other then what you bought it for.

Zune's play any and all DRM free MP3's.....they won't, however, play DRM'ed music from other sources like i-tunes, Napster, etc.....which I don't use anyway. Even if you have DRM'ed music, you could just download a program that will strip the DRM from the files.

Amazon just sold some for $99 like a week ago, and now their price is only $129. Woot.com sold a ton of refurbished ones for $99.

I trust buy.com more then I trust some random Chinese junk peddler.

Brew Swillis 21st Oct 2007 10:10 am

Quote:

Originally Posted by booboo773";p=&quot (Post 39401)
Never mind, a copy and paste pulled up what I think is all of. Here it is:

"LIST PRICE" is the suggested retail price provided to us by our suppliers. We make no representation that a substantial number of these products have been sold or offered for sale at the list price. Actual retail prices in your area may be substantially different. Because we sell our merchandise over the internet on a national basis, it is not possible to know if our merchandise is sold at list price in any particular location or at any particular time. "YOU SAVE" reflects the difference between our price and the supplier provided list price shown on our sites. Because the list price may be different than the actual retail prices in your area, you may not actually realize a savings of this amount and may want to make an exact comparison for yourself by checking the prices of other internet or local retailers prior to making a purchase.

Hmm, seems I found their loophole. It cuts the disclaimer off at "Because the list price may be different than the actual retails prices in your area, you may..."

Wouldn't be surprised it whoever has ordered this gets another bill for the whole amount. The $99 is most likely a pre-order hold.


"List Price" doesn't have anything to do with what you pay. They just show a "List Price" so you can see how much money you are saving. The price you pay is listed under "Our Price"....which is $99.

knob 21st Oct 2007 10:32 am

Re: Forget Chipods, I'm getting a 30GB Zune for $99
 
Quote:

Zune's play any and all DRM free MP3's...
err..Brew, might be wrong about this but doesn't it wrap them up in DRM again if you try to send them to a mate for example?

booboo773 21st Oct 2007 10:51 am

I hope you're right Brew. It's just very hard to believe that a 30gb player is selling for $99 regardless of newer models coming into stock. 8gb players don't even sell for that. You might be correct on the List Price Disclaimer. It's all in the interpretation I guess. What I got out of it is that it could be used as an easy out option should they decide to tack on additional charges. After you pointed it out, I can also see your interpretation of it. Regardless, let us know how it goes and your thoughts on the Zune when you get it. 8)

Brew Swillis 21st Oct 2007 11:07 am

Re: Forget Chipods, I'm getting a 30GB Zune for $99
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by knob";p=&quot (Post 39409)
Quote:

Zune's play any and all DRM free MP3's...
err..Brew, might be wrong about this but doesn't it wrap them up in DRM again if you try to send them to a mate for example?

Yes the Zune will apply a 3 day DRM to shared files that are wirelessly sent from one Zune to another.....but I don't think I've even seen another person with a Zune :lol: , and don't expect to do much (if any) sharing. Besides, other MP3 players can't do that anyway.

I'm sure there's even a hack to get around it if you really want to share wirelessly.

DaremoS 21st Oct 2007 3:13 pm

Re: Forget Chipods, I'm getting a 30GB Zune for $99
 
Sorry guys when an MP4 player get WiFi or connection with the net... immediately loose any attraction for me... I can forget that is a personal player... to use it as a PDA or server for the business of the merchants of music put it just a machine for fools

No pun intended :wink:

Sorry again in music matters I am very sensitive

Brew Swillis 21st Oct 2007 4:04 pm

Re: Forget Chipods, I'm getting a 30GB Zune for $99
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DaremoS";p=&quot (Post 39425)
Sorry guys when an MP4 player get WiFi or connection with the net... immediately loose any attraction for me... I can forget that is a personal player... to use it as a PDA or server for the business of the merchants of music put it just a machine for fools

No pun intended :wink:

Sorry again in music matters I am very sensitive

I don't understand your ranting. :?

You NEVER have to BUY anything to use this as an MP3 player, or even video player. It will play all downloaded (illegal or not) and ripped MP3's. You never even have to turn the WiFi on if you don't want to.....in fact, just leave it off and save battery life.

I don't see any downsides. :?

timandsteph 21st Oct 2007 11:35 pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by booboo773";p=&quot (Post 39401)
Never mind, a copy and paste pulled up what I think is all of. Here it is:

"LIST PRICE" is the suggested retail price provided to us by our suppliers. We make no representation that a substantial number of these products have been sold or offered for sale at the list price. Actual retail prices in your area may be substantially different. Because we sell our merchandise over the internet on a national basis, it is not possible to know if our merchandise is sold at list price in any particular location or at any particular time. "YOU SAVE" reflects the difference between our price and the supplier provided list price shown on our sites. Because the list price may be different than the actual retail prices in your area, you may not actually realize a savings of this amount and may want to make an exact comparison for yourself by checking the prices of other internet or local retailers prior to making a purchase.

Hmm, seems I found their loophole. It cuts the disclaimer off at "Because the list price may be different than the actual retails prices in your area, you may..."

Wouldn't be surprised it whoever has ordered this gets another bill for the whole amount. The $99 is most likely a pre-order hold.

OK, as a first post I will try to explain this........
What they are saying is that their price is compared to the price the manufacturer would like it to sell at. "Our price vs. MSRP". Fortunately the MSRP is often much higher that the price you will find at local stores or other online retailers. That is why you might not get the savings they advertise, you might be able to find it at another online store for $10 more and therefore be only saving that $10. The price they advertise is the actual price you pay, I have bought other items from them that had a similar savings and have never had a reserving fee such as you are thinking of.

timandsteph 21st Oct 2007 11:46 pm

The above is not to further the profits of Microsoft in any way, I do not now or ever will own a Microsoft product unless it is bought second-hand.

tadad1 22nd Oct 2007 12:15 am

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brew Swillis";p=&quot (Post 39426)
Quote:

Originally Posted by DaremoS";p=&quot (Post 39425)
Sorry guys when an MP4 player get WiFi or connection with the net... immediately loose any attraction for me... I can forget that is a personal player... to use it as a PDA or server for the business of the merchants of music put it just a machine for fools

No pun intended :wink:

Sorry again in music matters I am very sensitive

I don't understand your ranting. :?

You NEVER have to BUY anything to use this as an MP3 player, or even video player. It will play all downloaded (illegal or not) and ripped MP3's. You never even have to turn the WiFi on if you don't want to.....in fact, just leave it off and save battery life.

I don't see any downsides. :?

I suppose the beauty of open forums such as this is that we all have the opportunity to pass on our beliefs and opinions no matter how relevant, irrelevant, educated, misinformed, biased, opinionated or otherwise they may be.
Even taking into account any negatives the Zune may be perceived to have this is still an excellent deal and an opportunity for many jaded chipod users to branch out into a range of players that would usually be beyond their budget.
Like myself I am sure many chipod owners have spent a lot more dollars buying multiple "low cost" players only to find most of them severely lacking or misrepresented one way or another.

Brew Swillis 22nd Oct 2007 1:30 am

Re: Forget Chipods, I'm getting a 30GB Zune for $99
 
WOW! :shock: Refurbished one's just went up on woot.com for $79.00: http://www.woot.com/ These won't be up for long, as stuff on woot.com usually only stays up for a day or two.

These refurbished one's will ship when you purchase them, unlike the new one's on buy.com that ship on Nov. 19th. If I hadn't already ordered a brand new one from buy.com, I would really consider a refurbished one from woot.com.

Now...who can beat a 1 year factory warrantied 30GB MP3 player for $80??

booboo773 22nd Oct 2007 7:01 am

Quote:

Originally Posted by timandsteph";p=&quot (Post 39448)
Quote:

Originally Posted by booboo773";p=&quot (Post 39401)
Never mind, a copy and paste pulled up what I think is all of. Here it is:

"LIST PRICE" is the suggested retail price provided to us by our suppliers. We make no representation that a substantial number of these products have been sold or offered for sale at the list price. Actual retail prices in your area may be substantially different. Because we sell our merchandise over the internet on a national basis, it is not possible to know if our merchandise is sold at list price in any particular location or at any particular time. "YOU SAVE" reflects the difference between our price and the supplier provided list price shown on our sites. Because the list price may be different than the actual retail prices in your area, you may not actually realize a savings of this amount and may want to make an exact comparison for yourself by checking the prices of other internet or local retailers prior to making a purchase.

Hmm, seems I found their loophole. It cuts the disclaimer off at "Because the list price may be different than the actual retails prices in your area, you may..."

Wouldn't be surprised it whoever has ordered this gets another bill for the whole amount. The $99 is most likely a pre-order hold.

OK, as a first post I will try to explain this........
What they are saying is that their price is compared to the price the manufacturer would like it to sell at. "Our price vs. MSRP". Fortunately the MSRP is often much higher that the price you will find at local stores or other online retailers. That is why you might not get the savings they advertise, you might be able to find it at another online store for $10 more and therefore be only saving that $10. The price they advertise is the actual price you pay, I have bought other items from them that had a similar savings and have never had a reserving fee such as you are thinking of.

Good to know. As I said before, it's all in the interpretation. Seeing as I was a tad skeptical with the deal, I read it a bit differently. Glad to see someone who has buying experience with buy.com posting. Welcome to the board. 8)

Now the question of the day, does anyone know why these players are going so cheap? Seriously, newer incoming models aside, it's a helluva deal. Yes, I'm still skeptical...it's my nature. :)

Also, does anyone here own a Zune that can give us a review?

lattesurf 22nd Oct 2007 8:25 am

Perhaps it's Microsoft's way of marketing their players. By selling near cost with low profits, makes it very affordable and extremely competitive (maybe even cheaper) with the popular ipods or any other players. So it'll sorta generate interest and awareness amongst like-minded groups (like this thread!), people would start to get aware of it. Free publicity in a way.

i'll see of it as a marketing strategy and nothing else.

jakes 22nd Oct 2007 10:15 am

Microsoft Zune 30GB Digital Media Player
 
Are there anybody out there that can buy me a Microsoft Zune 30GB Digital Media Player from buy.com and send it to Australia?
Thanks

admin 22nd Oct 2007 11:04 am

Hi jakes,

Do they not delivery to Australia?

admin 22nd Oct 2007 12:21 pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by booboo773";p=&quot (Post 39480)
Now the question of the day, does anyone know why these players are going so cheap?

I'm think maybe the BROWN version of the Zune isn't popular?

Don't know about you guys, but a brown player just doesn't look all that nice as brown reminds me of something else..........

Can you imagine a brown HiFi system/component? What about a brown DVD player or LCD TV? Hum........

DaremoS 22nd Oct 2007 12:57 pm

Re: Forget Chipods, I'm getting a 30GB Zune for $99
 
I wonder if Zune is indeed popular... it's the first time I read a thread about this player here.

I still feel that this USA wonders are mostly marketing than anything else... I agree with somebody else here... I would like to read a review from some of ours members... a sincere one.

knob 22nd Oct 2007 1:34 pm

Re: Forget Chipods, I'm getting a 30GB Zune for $99
 
Just had a look on the ABI forum to see what is said about this player.

Seems you don't get a user EQ, you can't delete tracks on the go or access the hard disk directly..:-( So some pretty basic stuff is missing really.

Album art support is really big though apparently, pity Zune only supports WMV formats for videos though..

http://www.anythingbutipod.com/forum...ad.php?t=21119
Still I suppose its not bad for $99 as a second player.

try again Bill.....

DaremoS 22nd Oct 2007 3:13 pm

Re: Forget Chipods, I'm getting a 30GB Zune for $99
 
Seems that this Zune follow normal standards of USA made players.

from:
Microsoft Zune Review

this:
Sound Quality

The Zune’s sound quality is good and will suffice for the majority of users, but if sound quality is a very important feature, you may want to look elsewhere. The very high end and the very low end are somewhat blurry, but something you can only tell with a really nice set of headphones and some critical listening. Sound quality is average at moderate listening levels, but tends to fall flat and louder volumes.

Nothing else to say, the same product as USA. Korean and Japanese MP4

:roll:

jakes 22nd Oct 2007 4:49 pm

Re: Forget Chipods, I'm getting a 30GB Zune for $99
 
Hi Binh,

Buy.com does not do delivery to Australia.
That is why if there is some one that can help it would be much appreciated.

Thanks
Jakes



Do they not delivery to Australia?
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Buzzygirl 22nd Oct 2007 5:15 pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by admin";p=&quot (Post 39496)
I'm think maybe the BROWN version of the Zune isn't popular?

Don't know about you guys, but a brown player just doesn't look all that nice as brown reminds me of something else..........

Can you imagine a brown HiFi system/component? What about a brown DVD player or LCD TV? Hum........

Exactly! DRM/musical restrictions aside, the Zunes are just butt-ugly. I'm thinking either primary colors or snappy, bright ones are going to catch the eye of most potential buyers of these players. I can't imagine what Microsoft's rationale was for choosing BROWN as one of the Zune's primary colors. I'm guessing that they were trying to be "different" than the competition, but seriously...

Brew Swillis 22nd Oct 2007 5:27 pm

Re: Forget Chipods, I'm getting a 30GB Zune for $99
 
First off, I'm not some kind of weird Zune supporter, and don't even like Micro$oft all that much, but alot info being posted here is fairly incorrect.

The first gen Zunes will be able to utilize the second gen's firmware. That firmware will add a few features that the first gen Zune didn't have.

The Zune will be able to play other movie formats than WMV:
"Users no longer need to transcode file types to wmv as there are now native video codecs for h.264 and mpeg4."


The Zune is supposed to use a Zune-specific software, but many people have found ways around using it, and can access it's hard drive directly.


As far as audio quality....well I think you need to post more than one or two personal reviews. It does have a Wolfson DAC:

"If you are serious about audio quality the Zune is the best out of current offerings, with a 24/96 Wolfson DAC and 1 watt output. My sennheissers glow from using it."

"QFT, the Zune sounds better than any of the iPods I have owned"

"PROS:
1. Absolutely AWESOME audio quality for such a small device, very dynamic and clear without any harsh sound."



I'm sure the sound will definitely be as good as any Chinese player that I can buy for $99.00.

booboo773 22nd Oct 2007 5:41 pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by admin";p=&quot (Post 39496)
Quote:

Originally Posted by booboo773";p=&quot (Post 39480)
Now the question of the day, does anyone know why these players are going so cheap?

I'm think maybe the BROWN version of the Zune isn't popular?

Don't know about you guys, but a brown player just doesn't look all that nice as brown reminds me of something else..........

Can you imagine a brown HiFi system/component? What about a brown DVD player or LCD TV? Hum........

LOL Bihn! It does look kinda bad... :lol:

Brew Swillis 22nd Oct 2007 5:46 pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Buzzygirl";p=&quot (Post 39510)
Quote:

Originally Posted by admin";p=&quot (Post 39496)
I'm think maybe the BROWN version of the Zune isn't popular?

Don't know about you guys, but a brown player just doesn't look all that nice as brown reminds me of something else..........

Can you imagine a brown HiFi system/component? What about a brown DVD player or LCD TV? Hum........

Exactly! DRM/musical restrictions aside, the Zunes are just butt-ugly. I'm thinking either primary colors or snappy, bright ones are going to catch the eye of most potential buyers of these players. I can't imagine what Microsoft's rationale was for choosing BROWN as one of the Zune's primary colors. I'm guessing that they were trying to be "different" than the competition, but seriously...

Alot of people actually prefer the brown, to the balck and white. Here's a chart from Amazon sales back in May (before the recent discounts) for hard drive based MP3 players. The BROWN Zune came in second:

http://www.zunerama.com/graphics/ama...0513-large.jpg


"Brown Zune maybe the MOST popular?

It appears that retailers are beginning to discount the Black and White Zune. The Brown Zune however continues to be sold for $249. Could this signal that Microsoft has been successful marketing the Zune as a more "alternative" media player."

DaremoS 22nd Oct 2007 6:23 pm

Re: Forget Chipods, I'm getting a 30GB Zune for $99
 
How can reviews be so different?
The one I've posted in completely different than of Brew Swillis'!!!
My source seems to be a know source as it is http://www.anythingbutipod.com/ and not a personal one.
Aren't professionals the guys of this site?... or are they paid from another manufacturer?
This is the kind of things that I hate from merchandising, at the end the user is abused by some sort of "reviewers" and absolutely mislead.


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