NEW actions chip (Actions ATJ2135) - player availability
Have you all read the following post yet?
post about the new actions chip well go and have a look and a you tube of an ATJ2135 player in action (DaremoS) http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=Ei5ppIBSIVw Daremos accidentally discovered a new player using the new chip from Actions Semiconductor and was blown away with it this post is simply to start gathering a list and possible stores of players using this chip why all the fuss, well if you read the link above then you will see why but in brief: 1.support FLV 2.support playlists 3.multiple video xvid support @ <=30fps 4.OGG, APE and FLAC 5.image browser with rotate and zoom 6.music catalogue, view by artist, genre, album etc 7.copy data from sd card to player 8.NES (??) 9.SRS WOW sound 10 pop up easy access mnus from all screens and more - just read on to find out more detail this is a new chip and players are thin on the ground and also i think the firmwares will change with new support and updates anyway i will start with a couple of links to players using the new chips this is the player that started it all, found by DaremoS in local market, not yet seen on line, has name of "groven" http://daremos.vtrbandaancha.net/Groven_close_up.jpg Ainol v900 on sale at i-yotta.com http://203.174.34.46/~yottaenter/Pho...V900_main1.jpg and unbranded on sale at chinavision.com (bought by member riolist) http://img1.chinavasion.com/images/t...mb_164x162.jpg so - get hunting people and see what you can find, ones on sale at a store would be best but what ever you can find BTW a good way to recognize if a player has this new chip is by the interface - use the image below as a reference http://www.ebay.vpunk.co.uk/v900/100_3055%20(Small).JPG |
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great picture!!! :D
your player look awesome :lol: |
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link and image to the 'foston' player which can be seen in the youTube video found by DaremoS
http://www.snetcommerce4.com.br/ecom...0143fs-748.jpg web site link (have to copy an paste as link has some odd characters) main web site www.snetcommerce4.com.br/ecommerce_site/index.php?pg=t1_ex_prod&codprd=51156&cd=jnhbgf2:|S iji&cat=ggkdba8@/Sdkc&cdgc=njnfgf6;[Re&sid=9si2uonu1gv0ds0khps6pi9qh1-1193468264 |
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This Foston FS-74 seems to use the same chip but my upgrade program refuse to use its firmware for not be the same kind as mine :?:
This didn't happen when I try to mount Ainol V800 firmware which I would be able to load in my player... but I didn't In the list it must be added Ainol V800 and probably Ainol V950 which is a player of 2.8" screen |
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thanks DaremoS :)
wonder if they have firmware on their site - will look, could use it on the ainol unis is identical bar the center nav buttons being round and ainols are square - hope theirs is easier to use then the ainol one ;) vid review od v950 - says it is a rock chip http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7y-pn-wzrcc i think ainol upcoming u90 is also this new chip - will look at this keep on searching and places to buy them also :) :) |
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Ainol v800
i think this is not in production now and has been replaced with the v900, but you may still find some around (firmware available on ainol site) http://www.ebay.vpunk.co.uk/v900/240x180_168637.jpg |
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new player
meeto - A3 available from : unknown - not found any store selling yet home page : product main site review : imp3.net review http://www.ebay.vpunk.co.uk/v900/meeto_A3.jpg |
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another one
Aiwa w900 - first 2.8" screen i have seen wit this chip availibility: unknown home page: aiwa w900 home page Review: review of aiwa w900 -- no firmware so far -- http://www.hkaiwa.com/images/UploadF...7810145355.jpg |
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Specifications of screen are impressive:
2.8" - 320x240 - 16 millions colours This is KH Aiwa... I suppose a Chinese filial of Japanese Aiwa... it's very nice so see others beauty in their assortment as it is AW-A680 which is Teclast C260 which sport the Swiss chip RK2608A. Rockchip is usually mentioned in China as Swiss chip. |
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Here is a company that have many ATJ-2135: 4 models of 2.4" and 3 of 2.8"
http://www.orbitcn.com/ 2.4" models: [img=left:bb48803b9b]http://www.orbitcn.com/images/products/OB-B24A01.jpg[/img:bb48803b9b]http://www.orbitcn.com/images/products/OB-B24A02.jpg [img=left:bb48803b9b]http://www.orbitcn.com/images/products/OB-B24A03.jpg[/img:bb48803b9b]http://www.orbitcn.com/images/products/OB-B24A04.jpg 2.8" models: [img=left:bb48803b9b]http://www.orbitcn.com/images/products/OB-B28A01.jpg[/img:bb48803b9b]http://www.orbitcn.com/images/products/OB-B28A02.jpg http://www.orbitcn.com/images/products/OB-B28A03.jpg Typical OEM company they show a place where to put the "LOGO" of your brand :) |
Daremos
i saw these people and was impressed by the styles but they all look like "mock up" designs rather than actual pictures of actual players i.e. they are made in photoshop what do you think? very nice designs though, really like the last really like the last of the 2.8 models - looks very snazzy |
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This player appears everywhere when you google "ATJ 2135" and yes... it appears as projects instead of real players... :)
Here is a resume of characteristics of the chip taken from a legal memory published in USA at the end of 2006 by Actions Semiconductors Ltd. Device Thirteen Series ATJ 2135 Introduction Date January 2007 Addressable Market Portable Multi-Media TV player Digital Video Camera Available Functions • MP3, WMA, DRM, WMA, ASF, OGG, APE, FLAC, WAV • DRM 10, MTP • FM Radio • Voice/FM/ Linein Recording, MP3, WAV,ACT • Video Play QVGA @25frame- XVID, AMVB • Picture Browse: JPEG, BMP, GIF • MP3 encoding • SD/MMC Card • SRS WOW+SRS WOW HD+Turbass+Usermode • TXT, • Multi task on ucOS, Linux • USB Slave 2.0 Supplementary Functions • MJPEG, WMV, MPEG2 etc • GAME, Flash,JAVA • TV-in/out,Coms Sensor, • Touch pannel • USB OTG Display • 2.0~3.5 QVGA TFT color display Battery Life (1) Using a single AA battery, media playback at medium volume level. • At 550 mAh li BAT • Video 5h • Music (LCD on) 7.5h • Music (LCD off) 12h Storage Media • NAND Flash (SLC/MLC) • SD/MMC • NOR Flash • HDD Here is shown that screen can reach 3.0", that the chip can have HDD as storage, that OS was made in Linux, that it is OTG (On The Go: can play while is plugged to USB), among other things. Introduction was not in January 2007 but in 3rd semester, fps finally was not 25 fps but 30 fps. |
good find DaremoS
i have read that the 2137 will be linux bases OS, but not this one, if it is then great i think that the chips and firmware we have are just the very beginning and hopefully most of what has been proposed by actions will eventually arrive OTG is partly there isnt it, with the file transfer from card to player, thought it may be good for the camera to empty my card but the player will not even show the images, seems the images are too large for it to handle, so much for that idea cant wait till development steps up on this chip, i think it has massive potential, but needs refining |
@makd511, DaremoS,
Thanks for showing us the future :D. If I ever buy another MP4 player, i'll make sure to buy a 2137 or later based one. The specs are extremely nice! Really, I thought Actions will not make big deal and they will be surpassed by the competition but it seems that we haven't seen the last from them. Good job Actions! You just (re)won a customer :). |
Excellent research guys. Thanks for all the info. It's much appreciated.
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There coming thick and fast now - but hard to find as there are not many branded players as yet but here is another ATJ2135 based player
this one is available in 1, 2 and 4gb models but i think is a little pricey it is available from their own site or you can find it on the following: http://www.overstock.com/Electronics...3/product.html http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16855627003 and ebay has some too brand: meelectronics model: RockMee meeelectronics web site http://www.ebay.vpunk.co.uk/v900/mee_1.jpg http://www.ebay.vpunk.co.uk/v900/mee_2.jpg specs: * Enjoy your videos, music, ebooks or FM station on the go with RockMee MP3 player from MEElectronics * 2GB multimedia player has 2.4-inch QVGA TFT LCD screen (260,000 colors) * MP3 player's dual earphone plugs let you enjoy the music together with your friends or loved ones * Not only will you never run out of memory with the expansion slot, you can also easily transfer files from your other devices to you RockMee with the Mini SD card * MP3, WMA, OGG, FLAC and WAV file formats music playback * Support .avi files, convert other files with provided software * View your pictures with slide shows * Record your favorite FM program * FM Tuner with 20 channel presets * SRS WOW enabled, built-in user EQ let you enjoy your music your way * Built-in rechargeable battery with up to 9 hours continuous music playback; 2 hours of video play back * Battery will be fully charged within 2 hours * Expand memory with Mini SD card * Powerful tools include: clock, stopwatch, calculator, and calendar * Package content: RockMee player, carry pouch, premium earphones, sports armband, user manual, quick start guide, software CD, USB cable, travel charger * Measures 3.1 inches wide x 1.9 inches high x 0.4 inches deep |
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another one
this seller does not seem to realise that this is a new actions chip, by the screen shot it certainly is but the specs do not really reflect the capabilities of the chip - may be a good idea to check with the seller to confirm before buying that this is an ATJ2135 based player - reasonable price though for 2gb for sale on ebay brand: unbranded model: none seller : campus111 (72324) ebay seller address: actions mp4 on ebay http://www.ebay.vpunk.co.uk/v900/2135_new.jpg specs: * 65,000 TRUE-COLOUR TFT display, the BEST available on eBay. It is basically a miniature TV screen that plays your favorite movies and photos. * SHARE YOUR MUSIC!!! HAVE Two 3.5mm headphone sockets * Super Size 2.4 Inches Full-Colored QVGA TFT Display ,high definition * Audio format: MP3 WMA AMR AAC-LC WAV * Support Video Formats:ASF/MP4/MTV/3GP/MOV .Support AVI movie files and enjoy movies anywhere! * Support .JPEG (JPG) PICTURE & PHOTO files and browsing of them. Share your precious moments with your friends and families. * Vivid and Animated Menus allow super user-friendly operations * Super MINI Physical Size for Great Portability (about the size of a Matchbox) * Subfolder Support to manage your hundreds of songs * E-Book Reader - you can relax and read novels and magazine anywhere! * FM Digital Radio Integrated-in Player (NOT FM HEADPHONE) * Personal Digital Voice Recorder. * Game .Snake, Boxman, Tetrix * Other Function: Stopwatch,calculator and calendar. * Display Time and Date. * Rechargeable Lithium Battery (5+ Year Life) Built-in for savings and portability for 6+ Hours of Music Playing on Full Charge * Direct Rechargeable by USB, also Universal Power Adaptor (100-240V) * Solid State Memory Technology, totally Shock Proof for daily and sports use. * USB 2.0 Full-Speed at 12MBits/sec for ultra high speed transfer of files * Direct plug into your PC for MP3/MP4/JPG and PC file transfer with the included USB Cable * Plug-N-Play for Windows XP and Windows ME (No need to install any software!) * ALL OUR ITEMS ARE BRAND NEW. We do not sell refurbished items. * Dimension: 7.8cm x 4.5cm x 1.1cm * Transmission rate: Read>700kbps, write>500Kbps * USB interface: USB 2.0 * Picture frequency:n System 30fps; PAL System 25fps * Video output level :>/=1V (VPP) * Working temperature -5~ 40 Centigrades |
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This last one seems to be one of the products of Orbit manufacturer shown some messages above (the one of Photoshop players) it's exactly the one that seems to be more real :lol:
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OTG (On The Go feature)
Among the specifications of ATJ-2135 published by Actions,... it is said that the player support OTG, no tested yet, anyway I've found the ability to be plugged in USB charging while the player is in functions. This is useful if the player is plugged to a amplifier to release the sound through external speakers.
Well my GROVEN player has capability of charge and play at the same time... When the player is plugged to USB its needed simply to press for some second ESC key, after this the player will do the task "playlist organizing" and then it will show the menu. A small orange icon labeled USB will appear next to battery icon. :D :D :D PS.: I learned how to put it in this status because is the way I put in such status my Onda VX858 and my Teclast C260... all with the same capability!!!!! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: |
Hi DAREMOS , I'M A CHILEAN TOO and I also bought mp4 groven and this is fantastic, bought in Santiago chile (SUPERMERCADO LIDER ÑUÑOA ), I do not like their appearance and I would like to change your wallpaper and colours, unfortunately I can not upgrade the firmware, I use the software that comes on the disk and connecting it the computer does not recognize this, my groven is firmware version firmware 13.00.10.1012, know some software to change the appearance to groven, and you know if exist a new firmware version?, thanks a lot and UN ABRAZO FROM SANTIAGO CHILE
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Concerning the firmware... I will receive soon backup for 13.00.10.1012 and a new version which is ...1015. Me ha costado conseguirlo porq no hay una fábrica conocida o al menos el proveedor de Líder la tiene pa callao, lo único q se es q ya la tienen en Iquique, q es donde se mueven estos aparatos, y pronto le llegará a los tipos de Santiago. Tan pronto me llegue la voy a publicar acá. Me dicen que viene un cd, en una de esa trae algún utilitario pa poder modificar el skin que la verdad es q es feazo. I am waiting for the firmware as backup and I intend with it in my hand to start changing it with the one of Ainol players, which is the most known manufacturer that probably will start delivering new versions. For the moment I don't want to take the risk of put an Ainol V800 that I have. As I said in Spanish, as soon I get the backups and new version, I'll publish here for the all the members to use them. |
Realy is a great Mp4 and it need a better skin
thanks a lot , un abrazo from chile, |
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AFAIK... jo is a woman name... probably u r the first declared lez here :P :P :P |
sorry, i 100% man, and i do like women.
lez trapped in a mans body maybe. but seriously, that pic looks like she isnt wearing panties, its just an observation. |
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It's a very small picture... i think she is not showing her legs ;) |
Does anyone have one these players with the 'file navi' feature (such as the Ainol V900)? I love my player (from Chinavasion) but there doesn't seem to be a way to delete files on the player like in a true file browser. You can delete files which are playing, but any files that aren't playable can't be deleted (because the delete option only appears in the play screen context menu). So, for example, I haven't found a way to delete bookmarks since they aren't 'playable'. If i'm listening to a book, each time I stop I naturally set a new bookmark, but all the previous bookmarks have to stay there even though there's no longer a need for them. Can the 'file navi' feature be used to delete any file?
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Riolist
as you know i have the v900, i got it as i hoped for frequent updates from Ainol as this is such a new chip but nothing has come as yet and, as you are discovering, there are a few things that need addressing first of all is "file navi" enabled in your settings as you can turn menu items on and off, i am sure you may have seen this already but thought i would check well file navi on this player just allows you to view and select files to use, it will not allow you to delete / remove from here at all, the sub menu that appears when on any file only allows you to adjust volume - this is a little odd. it would be better if file navi would allow you to remove/delete files and also integrate the "copy" function here to, rather than have 2copy" as a seperate menu item. the only way i can remove any files is to enter the function i want, say music and whilst browsing the list in there the sub mane will allow me to remove the current highlighted file. The file does not have to be "playing" to remove it. BTW my player/firmware use the word "remove" instead of delete. Another annoying thing is playlists. The only way to empty a playlist is to browse the list, not in file navi, and remove items one at a time - this can take a while if it is a long playlist. there is no option to "empty playlist". i have found one way to do this but you have to connect player to PC and look in the folder "PLAYLIST". Whenever you add files to one of the predefined playlists in the player a fle is created in here and named MSCLST.0, MSCLST.1 etc. MSCLST.0 = playlist1 etc to empty the playlist completely just delete the appropriate MSCLST file and the nest time you turn on the player that list will be empty. one moare playlist bug, i can add whole albums to a playlist form "Album " view and will add all songs in that album to the list, but when connect it to PC and disconnect it it empties the bloody list completely |
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I haven't used playlists so I can't comment on that. So the one difference between your player and mine (besides the 'file navi' option, which doesn't seem to do much) is that you seem to be able to enter a sub-menu while browsing files. I don't seem to have that option. Have you ever taken your player apart? It would be interesting to see where the button that activates the sub-menu during file navigation is connected. Maybe I could rig one up and get access to that feature! Thanks for your help. It's fun exploring these sophisticated players. I can't wait to see what's next. |
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To gain access to the sub menus i have to hold this button down for about 3 seconds, release the button and the menu pops up. one of the main features of this UI is its pop up side menus and would be very surprised if you can not access them in some way. i would imagine that the button you use to "select" items may be the one to use as this is the way mine is configured give it a go any way and let us know, and what are the two buttons on top of your player for - volume? |
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There's a total of 5 pushbuttons and 1 on-off switch on my player.
On the top the two switches are: 1. On the left is the on-off slide switch. 2. On the right is the volume pushbutton. This raises a volume screen in the now playing screen that enables the two lower front panel buttons to adjust the volume during playback. In other screens this button does nothing. On the front panel there are 4 pushbuttons: 1. On the upper left is the main menu button, labeled 'esc' (strange). This allows you to drill down into the various primary menus and at the level when individual files or options are visible, to select them, and also to make selections in the sub-menus. A long press of this button returns to the main menu screen (my music, my video, etc) 2. On the upper right is the play/pause button. Besides activating play/pause during playback this button allows you to step back up through the main menu structure while in screens other than playback (the opposite of the drilling down of the 'esc' button). A long press will turn on/off the player in any screen. 3. On the lower left is the left directional button. in playback it is the rewind/previous track button and steps from bottom to top in the menus. It also adjusts the volume down in the now playing screen after the volume button on top has activated the volume screen. 4. On the the lower right is the right directional button. It does the same as the left button but in the opposite directions. So that's it. As you can see, there's no process in these button functions to activate a sub-menu during ordinary menu navigation. They could have assigned that function to the volume button since it doesn't do anything in screens other than now playing, but they didn't. I'm a little unclear about the capability of your player. Can you delete bookmarks using a sub-menu when you're in the Tag list screens? |
Riolist... I don't recall what firmware version you have, mine is 13.00.10.1012 and makd511 is.. .1015. Your version seems to be similar to mine. This means that some enhancement have been made between both version, ie. "file navi" that I don't have.
I am waiting for a couple firmwares promised by the seller confirmed to be in the provider premises. I will publish them here... and I will inform you about how the upgrade procedure goes which is for me a doubt. The problem with cheaper chips is that are installed in player made by cheap enterprises that don't bring support, so we are relaying on Ainol which seems to be most known brand of ATJ2135 makers. Yesterday I was interchanging e-mails with an executive of MEElectronics, a very gentle person but he wasn't capable of obtain a firmware for their product. MEElectronics Anyway... I'm still happy with this player... I was comparing it in sound with my new iAudio D2 and surprisingly the sound with SRS activated was as good as D2. |
Hi DaremoS,
My firmware is 10.12.16.0707 it doesn't seem to be a consistent number across players of different brands. It's interesting that the seller of the RockMEE can't get the firmware for the player he sells! Unfortunately, Chinavasion is very much against firmware upgrades and states on their website that they will never make firmware available for the players they sell. So your player is like mine; no sub-menus within the regular menu navigation? Of course i'm very happy with mine as well, it has so many more features than not only other Chinese players but mainstream players as well. When do you think we'll see a name brand player that can move files between main memory and the memory card? I'd say probably never. The rough spots are fairly minor. I would rate the sound qualtiy on mine as 'superior' as well. I own some of the best sounding players there are (Rio, Samsung, and yes my Rockboxed e280 (VERY good sound)) and this player can stand right next to them in sound quality. |
Oh one more thought. It looks like the 'file navi' feature is not much of an addition to the firmware. It looks more like an unfinished implemenation that was left off or ours because it doesn't really do anything useful. What's really better about makd511's player is the ability to enter sub-menus from within the standard menu navigation, which means you can delete files without 'playing' them, but that feature doesn't depend on 'file navi' at all, as I understood makd511's description.
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Rio
sorry for not replying earlier but been away for the weekend yes, the "file navi" is useless, lets you view and select files only, when ever i enter the sub menu here all i get is "volume" the buttons on the V900 are as follows 1. top button - play/pause, on/off 2. bottom button - return button, navigate backwards through the menu system. 3.four nav buttons - used for general navigation up and down lists, for volume and fast forward/backward etc. 4 center button ,arked "M", used for selecting current highlighted item and long press brings up sub menu no matter what screen you are in. if i enter my "music" function i come to a main list of All music, Artist etc pressing the "M" button opens the next list, so clicking M once on artist open the list of available artists. from here if i hold M button for 3 seconds my sub menu will appear with the following options: Repeat EQ Replay Times Replay Gap Remove Add to my Playlist Volume if i select "Remove" from here it will remove all the songs listed under that artist at once. taglist entries for both music and video can be deleted form the sub menu in the same way as i said above so in short, no matter where i am in the player i can get to sub menu by pressing M for a few seconds, sometimes there is nothing but "volume" listed |
I see, so your player actually has seven buttons while mine has five not including the sliding on-off switch. When I get time i'll open mine up and see if there are any unused pads that might allow for an extra button or two, though I doubt it.
Hopefully more people will come forward with these kinds of details I don't know why there isn't more excitement about this product, it really represents a whole new level in Chinese players. I doubt i'm going to buy another ordinary Rockchip player after seeing this. Hopefully there's even better things around the corner. |
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My menu player have 10 screens with graphics (that I don't really like) one screen for each function... It don't have function "file navi". 10 functions are: Music, Photos, Video, Record, FM, E-book, Games, Tools, Data Exchange and Settings. This is 1st level. If I keep MENU pressed in this level apperas the bar of volume. Selecting an option appears a new menu or list of related options. the usual blue screen which is normal for this chip. If your keep pressed MENU in this level appears what I've called sub_menus, the black list of options on the right. This is 2nd level. From here on if its keep pressed MENU will appear the sub-menu with related options. In three functions Music, Photos and Video there is an option called "dir list", sort of dedicated browser, which has option "remove" in sub-menu when pointing some file, so it's possible to delete files from within the player. All the files of music, photos or video. The graphics of the functions looks more like cartoons than other type of graphics, are very colourful. To complete the idea of this graphics when the player is switched off, appears a animation of a seated dog, cartoon dog and a couple of crossed bones :D :D ... good for a child player. |
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