Discussion about Operating Systems
 

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Keep dreaming! Macs are still an insignificant portion of the market share

> 5) Have a very powerful hardware and a low price!
> low price
Definitely not!

Macs have 5 percent of the market.
But I don't look at this seriosly!
If they're REALLY much better than PC,
they WILL capture the market!
Have you seen Vista defeat?
This is a beginning of Microsoft crash! :twisted:

Macs have no viruses, crashes, errors and hardware problems!
They are BETTER! We will face the victory!

They aren't expensive! As you see, Apple just doesn't making
slow computers! Even the most cheap Macbook have 2 GHz Core 2 Duo,
NVidia Great Video Adapter, 4 Gb of operation memory and other!

HOORAY! APPLE ETHERNAL!

I agree Vista was the beginning of MS's decline, and i've also played with Windows 7 pre-beta, and it's just another Vista, just a little bit tweaked, they should've called it Vista SP2.

But the world isn't heading for Macs it's heading for Linux. Why? FREE. And...

20 inch iMac.
2.4GHz Core 2 Duo
1GB memory
250GB hard drive
8x double-layer SuperDrive
ATI Radeon HD 2400 XT with 128MB memory
$1200.

My computer:
2.33GHz Core 2 Duo @ 3.5GHz
8GB DDR2-1000
320GB hard drive
16x/48x double-layer DVD/CD writer drive, 16x/52x double-layer DVD/CD reader drive
ATI Radeon HD3870 with 512MB memory
19" Nokia CRT (give up CRTs? NEVER!!!)
$900.

So... yeah. Macs are better and cheaper... yea, sure.

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Not really low indead but if you bould up a windows PC with exact same hardware with same specs from the same brand it will cost you about as much it's a fear price not low

Uh... Read above. :lol:

Granted:

OS X 10.5 vs. Vista = Vista FAIL
OS X 10.5 vs. Windows XP = XP FAIL

... but Apples all have the same hardware as PCs these days, with significant (significant! like 3x+ the price!) markup.

Macs are better but not cheaper. I hate the UI restrictions, but yeah... otherwise, it's not even a debate.

Personally, I prefer linux. :P

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We can discuss this for ages and everyone has their own opinions and preferences.

The last time I used a Mac was many years ago back at University. I've always been a Windows user mainly because I understand it.

There are advantages and disadvantages for and against a Mac and a Windows O/S. Then there is also personal preference as well.

My reasons for going with Windows is (remember this is just MY personal reasons):

1. It has a large majority. Therefore there will be a lot more support for it as well as discussion and help relating to Windows on the internet.

2. There is a very good chance that the next job I go into, they will use Windows. I'm not going to be the one that goes "how to do this in Windows again?".

3. A large majority of software is written with Windows in mind and is more compatible.

5. Drivers are easier to find in Windows over Linux drivers.


Those are just my personal opinions and there will be someone who will probably say otherwise.

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The Macbook Pro is one of the good Mac laptops, and comparable in price with high-end Windows-based laptops.

But just look at the Apple Forums - so many people have problems with the Macbook Air and other Apple laptops.

As for that review, that huge dip appearing in HD Tune at the beginning signals a faulty drive. Transfer rates should NEVER go that low on a new HDD. When it comes to premium prices i'd rather pay them for a Sony Vaio than for a Macbook.

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That's because there are 20 times more Windows users. :)

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Alright then, there are "only" 10 times more Windows users than Mac users... My argument still stands.

Also, i don't get what you mean by "Rockchip Vista driver", they all connect as removable disks, which is an universal format recognized by all versions of Windows from 98 up.

And good luck getting any of the recovery tools to work on a Mac.

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Wizard,

That's strange you have to install drivers for it to charge that's for sure. Is this on your Mac? As far as I know, there is a seperate part of the USB connection that is specfically for power while the other is for data connection to computer. Take a look here: USB pinout.

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For me, there's no contest. Free/Open Source software for Windows is freely available anywhere if you know where to look. Apple's business model relies on locking the purchaser into buying expensive Apple peripherals and software. No, I don't like that windows is closed-source, but at least I have lots of choice as to what I can run on it. This will never be the case with Apple.

Saying Apple hardware is more reliable is stupid, as they all run on Intel nowadays so there's no difference. You could install windows on your mac or osx on your wintel box if they didn't go out of their way to see that you can't do that.

What kills Linux is the Tower of Babel that is all the hundreds of mutually incompatible distros all competing with each other. Nobody is going to take it seriously until they all unite under one banner and all speak the same language. Then start writing killer apps for it. They could bury M$ and Apple both.

That's my $0.02.

Maybe not so strange... My Motorola phone charges through the USB connection but won't charge from a PC unless the driver is installed.

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All the components except the Intel CPU and NVidia card
are from Apple, and that's why the hardware is more reliable.
However, it's not the main factor of success.
I and my friend who has the old Macbook have done the benchmark test, some kind of competition,
and he won, don't understand why, because the hardware of my computer
is nearly 3-4 times more powerful that his. :( Maybe this defeat was because of Vista. :roll:
All the new components used at the every new Windows version
were mounted on the old ones from the previous versions,
so, the next upgrades can't change the situation,
the only thing can save Windows is a complete remake,
but that'll bring to the times of DOS.
There's no rescue for Windows,
the future is for Linux (yes, must be United) and Mac OS X. :P
Think that a lot of Windows users, who can't afford the powerful computer,
will choose to install Linux to their old instead of buying the Mac.

WIZARD
look here:-
http://www.reactos.org/en/index.html

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No, that's not for me. Macintosh is better than that kind of Hackintosh anyway.
Yes, you can install the Hackintosh on your computer,
but it will be unstable, and slower in several times.

im using the windows 7 beta now and its brilliant!

The same thing was with me, when I've installed Vista.
But after a two-three weeks I've realized that
it's worse than XP, but have already bought the licence
and can't return to the past.
So, I'm saving for Macbook Pro (very hard, 2000$ is a big money).
That's why I've bought a no-branded player instead of iPod.
Yes, Macs are good, because there're no computers that are so powerful,
but a lot of no-branded players can do the same things that iPods, but much more cheaper.

P.S. Please, let's go back to players-related topics,
that's better than wasting time to change someone's mind,
it's too hard and can't be changed at this topic.
To feel the difference, please, find somebody who have the Mac and try to use.
Or go to Apple's store, another option to try for free.