Well the first link is an iPod Nano Gen 3 Clone & it has a 1.8" Screen. The second link takes removable nokia bl4-c batteries and has a 2" Screen + Built In Speaker. I would buy the second 'Glacier' type player.

If you are looking for a very nice player I would buy this: http://www.tinydeal.com/catalog/prod...roducts_id=248

I have a budget of $60

kdawg , basically both players are the same. They are both running off an Actions chipset. The only difference is the casing that's all.

The main difference would be that the 2nd black player uses a removable battery (nokia type), which is better. As you can keep a spare battery in case the 1st one runs low.

Yeah, I will probably get the second black one. it's $5 more but what the heck. It has a bit bigger screen too. Would I be able to upgrade the firmware? And can I look at music while I listen to music?

kdawg , unfortunately firmware upgrading is not a possible option in Actions and Rockchip chipsets. i'm not saying it can't be done, but it is more likely to brick the player instead of improving it. Besides you gain nothing by upgrading firmware, maybe perhaps an extra 1 or 2 games that's all.

What do you mean by looking at the music whilst listening to it? Do you mean multi-tasking?

No, you can not listen to music and look at music at the same time.

I might also get this one

http://www.tinydeal.com/catalog/prod...roducts_id=223

It would say if it could multitask right? What's the name of this? What's the difference between this and the Glacier? This can do widescreen right? Not what the Ipod vid does and squishes it?

No, they can not multi task, I have not seen any Chinese MP4 Player that can.

Difference between that and a Glacier: nothing, Uxcell just made that name for their player.

It can view movies in AMV at full screen as long as you use the correct resolution whilst converting to AMV.

Rockchip MP4 players can multitask, they can browse songs whilst playing the current song,

Rockchips can also play a game at the same time as music.

Only problem is there seem to be only 1 or 2 Rockchips on the Tinydeal site and they don't look like ipods