help needed

hey all,

all your posts have helped me a great deal so far. so thank you all. but now im stuck with something which i havent come accross in this forum so far. i have a ipod nano like mp4 player which has a 1.5 inch screen and a 8 GB storage space. the problem is only the first song in every folder plays, when it goes to the second song, the mp4 player restarts itself. the same thing happens when i put all the songs in one directory, only the first song plays and then the player restarts.

my virmware version is 2006/03/13 act_v3.5.35.

i would really appreciate your help. email me on devil_badboy_6@hotmail.com for solutions if u want. im also attaching a picture of my type o player.

[EgoTrippin]

is it really 8 GB or a typo?

if it says 8 gb than its would definatelly have a hacked firmware which shows a faked capacity

besides this you should format the player and then again copy the songs to the player and check the diskspace of the player again after formating

yup its really 8gb. i even changed da firware which i got from this site and it stil shows 8gb. besides i hav uploaded more than 6 gb's on it and my computer alos reads da drive as 8g's. i tried formatting but the problem doesnt go away and its stil 8gb. even thou its a clone, it has da ipod logo on it front panel. i havent seen a clone of this sort on the net so far. its got da same design as da pic i posted but insead of "digital audon player written on the front, ipod logo is on it.

anyways, does any1 have a solution to my original problem.

thanks

[gieten]

Man , this is the first time that I hear of an 8-gig chinapod .... :shock:

[fizzle05]

I 2nd that, surely that must have cost as much as the ipod nano. I didn't even think they made them. As for your problem, I don't think the player can handle that much, 300MB for me is 100 tracks so 6000MB is 2000 tracks, the player only goes up to 999 i think, I may be wrong...how many songs have/can you put on it? are the songs over 320kbps? is it the same song that keeps cutting out on you?

[tadad1]

Not relevant to the problem but I did read somewhere the other day that they were starting to come out in 4 ond 8 gig configs but have found nothiing on costs.

i also have a nano clone mp3/mp4 player. it also said at the begining that it was 8gigs. i also had the same problem where my player restarted after the 15th or 16th song. so i formatted it using the comands from my computer. it stil read 8 gigs and the restart problem didnt go away. but when i downloaded mp3 player utilities 3.68 and used the mp3 player disk tool to try and format it, the tool only read 4092 Megs. n when i tried to format it said that it doesnt support the disk type. then i repartitioned the player using the disk tool and my space came down to 109 megs. can someone tell me what the problem is?

[Iridium]

xqshna,badboy, et. al.

If your ' 4 or 8 Gb' player is still under warranty, notify seller of problem immediately, and request a refund. Not an exchange....

READ THIS :

...." In researching lost memory problem I found this email response from a chip maker to a question about this memory issue:

Dear sir

we do apologize for late reply

there may be some fake products using hynix chip in the market

the maker make a software trick so this fake product seemed to have more density than it really should be.

so you'd better contact the mp4 maker for complaint.

we can't help you to recover the initial density because it seemed to be software fake and original chip's density is 128MB.(HY27UF081G2M has 1Gb=128MB Density)

thank you.

regards

hynix semiconductor

This is a beautifully worded comment on this from another site :

......."I think what Hynix meant was that there are manufacturers of "fake" players that use real Hynix 128MB chips, but deliberately spoof the firmware so they report 1GB to Windows. i.e. the Hynix chips are real, but only 128MB.

I don't think this is a mistake on the part of the manufactures of the MP3/4 players - it is a deliberate ploy to rip us off and steal our money.

I say this because, not only does the firmware spoof 1GB, but even when you copy 1GB's worth of information to the player (which I did) it says the copy was successful and shows all of the files in Windows Explorer (i.e. the firmware makes sure the FAT gets populated correctly).

But when you play the music, it gives an error after 128MB, and when you plug it back into the PC the FAT is corrupted.

If you format with the supplied tool, it carefully avoids overwriting the spoofed firmware, and still reports 1GB. But when you format with Windows, it actually formats correctly and from then on reports only the 128 (119) MB.

Even examining under Linux and changing geometry won't make any difference - there *is* only 119MB available.

I checked. Mine definitely has a HY27UF081G2M (1Gb - 128MB) chip in it. So it never was a 1GB player - just faked to make it look like it was.

If you've bought one of these and you know how to contact the seller, demand your money back (or report them on eBay or whatever). Don't let them get away with it! "........

So,' Caveat Emptor' seems to be the lesson here.

IMMEDIATELY upon receipt of your new player, load it to it's capacity, then try to access the last couple of files. If you get ' FORMAT ERROR' format it w/ Windoze. If it shows less memory than what you bought, contact your seller for replacement / refund fast before 3 or 7 day warranty they offer on ebay expires.


Note : Binh is it okay to pull quotes like this, or is it better to give the link? Should this be a sticky?

Thanks,
I


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Posted: 19 May 2006 11:56 pm Post subject: Re: Lost Memory Problem - explained

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Here is a quick clarification, I hope :

The issue is BIT versus BYTE. If I remember correctly, 1 byte= 8 bits.
OK, stay with me.

If a chip is stated as having 1gigaBIT (in manufacturer white paper), this is actually = to 128 true mb. 2 gigaBIT=256mb, 3 gigaBIT=384mb, 4 gigaBIT= 512mb, 8 gigaBIT = 1024mb or 1 true gigaBYTE.
So, you buy a 1gb player from honorable Chinese merchant, you load 1 true gigBYTE of data onto it.
A week later you start playing files past about 119mb and BAM!
The dreaded 'Format error' message....
You reformat w/ windoze, which shows true mb info, and you see you only have 128mb -apprx. 9mb for overhead or 119mb. Files placed on chip up to 119mb play fine. After 119mb, 'Format error' !
You cannot get back something you never had to begin with.
But you format, format, and re-re-re format, but oops! Every time windoze will show TRUE MB capacity.
By this time your player is beyond the 7 day warranty given by ' honorable Chinese merchant '. Etc. Etc.
So, go ahead and get the brand new Gazillion GB player ( read gigaBIT ) on ebay from the seller w/ only 10 positive feedback, but read warranty info 1st, and once you receive it, load it to it's capacity, play the last files first, and watch for errors. Reformat, then notify seller that it's really only a 128mb player..... Whew!
I write this to help unsuspecting buyers out there.
If anything I've said here is incorrect, please correct me.... ".......

Iridium






For more info on this well known problem :

http://forum.s1mp3.org/viewtopic.php?t=892

[EgoTrippin]

yeah i remember this... though he said that he uploaded more than 6 gigaBYTE on the player.. wouldnt this than exclude the possibility that the player only has 8 gigaBIT ? besides everything he has done so far should normally reveal a possible firmware hack... but i'm not sure

[Iridium]

EgoTrippin,
1st. I am not a coder.
However, apparently the very experienced hackers have found a way to allow the firmware to accept storage up to hacked capacity. The problem occurs when you try to access the files that are over the true capacity.

It also appears that sometimes they work, but most times not. Then you run into the 'format shows true capacity' issue.
Maybe there's a hidden compression algorythm that allows ....*excuse please*..... '10 lbs. of shit in a 5lb. bag'.....

I