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epokh 27th Aug 2007 10:41 am

Re: My Fake 4GB MP3 Player - Detailed Findings!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Zaidon";p=&quot (Post 2146)

The first thing that caught my attention is that most of the flash based players all operate with a FAT file system and specify that they should only be formatted with this type. Of course that means a limitation of 2GB. When i hooked up my player, i noticed it was FAT32 (therefore able to support drive capacity greater than 2GB) and after formatting it as FAT32 again, it worked just fine. I couldn't format it with the "MP3 Player Utilities" program though, obviously because it saw it as FAT32 but wanted to format it as FAT. Windows reported is as being 3.99GB after the format.
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There's something I can't understand, the FAT32 file system as an intrinsic size limit of 4GB for file size, while the FAT16 file system as a 2 GB limit for file size. But it doesn't mean that the max size of the HD is 4 GB for a FAT32 player.
Or probably are you referring to some implementation issues regarding the hw layer?

I'm just trying to understand, it's not a flame. :oops:

lolita 29th Aug 2007 1:23 am

Re: My Fake 4GB MP3 Player - Detailed Findings!
 
The newer players have FAT32 support in the firmware, and can use both FAT16 and FAT32 filesystems.

Quote:

There's something I can't understand, the FAT32 file system as an intrinsic size limit of 4GB for file size, while the FAT16 file system as a 2 GB limit for file size. But it doesn't mean that the max size of the HD is 4 GB for a FAT32 player.
Or probably are you referring to some implementation issues regarding the hw layer?
The maximum size of a single file is irrelevant to the actual capacity of the flash memory.

vanjanidilip 2nd Sep 2007 7:20 am

how can is it possiable to hack the memory of mp4 player

lattesurf 2nd Sep 2007 7:58 am

vanjanidilip , by altering the partition table. So that the memory chip reads a larger capacity than it really is.

wyldemusick 25th Nov 2007 1:23 am

Re: My Fake 4GB MP3 Player - Detailed Findings!
 
Another one of the many nailed with this, I'm afraid, this time via power_player88 on eBay, who is getting some feedback from buyers pissed about hacked flash drives, though not as much as might be expected (I suspect a lot of people are leaving positive feedback and then discovering that what they bought was not what they thought they bought.)

I made the discovery pretty quickly when I dumped a lot of data to the thing and it suddenly barfed up blood partway through the loading phase. Looking around to figure out what the problem might be led me here, finally, and lo and behold, there was the method for checking what the size really was. On my case, it's a 2Gb unit instead of a 4Gb unit. Given the price, it's perhps not such a hideous thing (especially as I got free shipping), but I'n still annoyed enough to leave negative feedback and put in for a refund. Let's see if I get it.

This unit, in fact: http://cgi.ebay.com/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi...m=170172423348

I notice he's listing some now as "Real 4Gb" -- I think he's getting nailed on this.

samsat 25th Nov 2007 2:20 am

Hi, thanks for your guids.I'm a victim of the hacked players.

M4cfly 6th Jan 2008 6:32 am

Payment To:
YIM PING CHAN (The recipient of this payment is not us-Verified)
Seller's ID:
i-proshopx
Seller's Email:
coolstuff.store@gmail.com

Fake 4gb Glacier, its real 2gb
Shows no reaction of my emails, so today i started a Paypal-conflict! :)

M4cfly 24th Jan 2008 11:17 am

I have news:
Today i got my money back, the seller wrote that he will check this 2 - 4Gb fake process ;)

So all of u: Use Paypal-conflict if u have been cheated

M4cfly 24th Jan 2008 11:18 am

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elliott78212 24th Jan 2008 2:55 pm

Re: My Fake 4GB MP3 Player - Detailed Findings!
 
Wow, so many rip offs, I found this site prior to purchasing on Ebay and I got no hassles, I spent a little more but got a better player. I purchased an Onda Vx878 I also made sure it wasn't an oem or unbranded player. I am very happy spent $65 have large 2.4" screen expandable micro sd memory slot and would recommend to all wanting to save. In the end you save little go with a name brand and check feedback on every buyer ask questions too.
I have been a buyer and seller on Ebay and most problems result from people not communicating and wanting a Walmart price for everything. I hate that I have to buy these from china so I may as well spend a little more on a quality product. It still beats buying an Apple product with it's propreitary software.
Staying Cool while dealing with your seller is a very good Idea, be detailed when filing claims with Ebay & Paypal if you want to win.

Nenaptio 14th Apr 2008 7:55 pm

Re: My Fake 4GB MP3 Player - Detailed Findings!
 
my 4 gig became a 235 gig... i think they use programs like stacker, to compress and decompress the files rapidly...

Lone-Crusader 27th Apr 2008 3:32 pm

Re: My Fake 4GB MP3 Player - Detailed Findings!
 
another seller to avoid is '2easydeal' on ebay...
with these: http://i23.ebayimg.com/08/i/000/e7/2c/a1ed_2.JPG

I've got caught with one of those 1.8" 2GB fake 4GB players,
I've now just started stabbing ebay, plus paypal over seller...

ZShock 10th May 2008 8:52 am

What about my 512mb player?

plantunes 13th Jun 2008 2:26 am

Hi there...
I'm also a new owner of a fake IPOD NANO 8 GB 3rd Generation...I would like to ask you all what do I have to do, since I'm a newbie in this matter, to know the real size of my mp4 player, how to install the most recent firmware, since the package does not give us any info about where or how to update...it's states to go to apple.com (lol) and finnally, is there any possibility to change the flash memory into a newer and bigger one? Is that an easy cost operation?

Iridium 17th Jun 2008 10:14 pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by plantunes";p=&quot (Post 49669)
Hi there...
I'm also a new owner of a fake IPOD NANO 8 GB 3rd Generation...I would like to ask you all what do I have to do, since I'm a newbie in this matter, to know the real size of my mp4 player, how to install the most recent firmware, since the package does not give us any info about where or how to update...it's states to go to apple.com (lol) and finnally, is there any possibility to change the flash memory into a newer and bigger one? Is that an easy cost operation?


Please use the search function and enter the term "hacked". All answers have been posted for virtually all players and hacks. Use "memory " as a search term as well.
Here are a few links if you do not want to use the search function:

http://www.mympxplayer.org/hacked-4-...yer-vt839.html

http://www.mympxplayer.org/how-to-re...ck-vt2400.html
A little reading will answer all your questions.

Good luck

plantunes 21st Jun 2008 3:31 am

Quote:

Originally Posted by Iridium";p=&quot (Post 49789)

Please use the search function and enter the term "hacked". All answers have been posted for virtually all players and hacks. Use "memory " as a search term as well.
Here are a few links if you do not want to use the search function:

http://www.mympxplayer.org/hacked-4-...yer-vt839.html

http://www.mympxplayer.org/how-to-re...ck-vt2400.html
A little reading will answer all your questions.

Good luck

1st of all thanks for your reply.
However, after downloading mp3 utils 4.05...i could not proceed with what was explined on the topic (how-to-removing-memory-hack) because I got the following message:

THE ENCRIPTED DISK, THE TOOL DOES NOT SUPPORT IT TO FORMAT.

What should I do now?
Please help me with this, because de Mp3 is driving me crazy with constant format error messages!
Big thanks in advance

Ghosty 14th Feb 2009 12:23 pm

just took my old mpx player apart and found this,

samsung 843
k9g8g08u0b
pcb0

Wtf chip is that, currently the battery is disconectedso i cant check the actual player.

edit: its ok i found the chip data sheet and turns out it is an 8GB chip which is what i paid for.

now lets see if the 16GB chipod clone is the same (if and when it arrives)

ftanl 25th May 2009 1:25 am

Quote:

Originally Posted by Iridium";p=&quot (Post 2165)
Zaidon,

BRAVO!!!
Thank you!
If enough of us do this, eventually it will get back to the manufacturers, and they will find a more inventive way to spoof the firmware into showing more capacity.

I think they have found a few new inventive ways my friend.. The MP3 disk tool is pretty much useless on the new players I've purchased over the past couple months..Even the firmware info is hacked into saying it's a different firmware..This makes it extra hard to remove the hack and fix the player..

krisz1342 28th Jan 2011 1:26 am

Hi everyone,
I buyed an Mp4 player and used with no problems but today its only shows me a blue screen with busy sign.
This is my mp4 player
http://i54.tinypic.com/2i0en87.jpg
I would like to use my player again please help me how to bring it back to life.
Thank you

Jadetatsu 12th May 2013 4:47 pm

how did you solve the "upgrade drivers" on your "fake" mp3/mp4 player. cause this is the problems I'm having.


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