Which firmware to flash
 

I have bought two players

China:
1.8 TFT 2 GB 2GB MP3/MP4 Video Player PMP Alu.Gehäuse V
Ebay Silver Edition
2006/10/30
9.0.50
2007/01/01
CTW500_V50
XXY641103
Silber Edition with 2GB
only plug for usb and manual included,
no device for charging no cd included
on the back it is written MP3/MP4 & Radio Player
in the manual it also shows radio,
in the description Games are also mentioned

Can't find Games nor radio ...

Germany:
Ebay Black Edtion
2GB MP3 MP4 Player 2,0'' Video,Musik,Foto
2006/09/12
9.0.43
2006/08/15
CTW500_S75
has got games (Tetris) but no radio on the back written
and in the menu does not show
had cd, cable and device for charging included
On the box was mentioned: www.tychonic.com

Which firmwares can i flash?
http://www.s1mp3.org/en/downloads_to...5b4d4698f#wire

3.68 version [download] (With AMV convert tool)
3.06 version [download] (With MTV convert tool)
4.00 version

is it possible or can i destroy it? Or should i use the downloads from here?
Which downloads do i have to choose?
The one is with radio on the back, it probably needs only an update,
the other needs an update too ...

What software should i use?
Which format should i use FAT/FAT32?

Thanks for info & help in advance

Why do you want to flash the firmware ??

The firmware on this site is ONLY for the recovery of players that have died.

They're not there to 'upgrade' players that work fine.
Your mp4 players already have the only firmware version they were meant to have and flashing a foriegn firmware file to them will most likely disable them.. permanently.
If your players are missing certain functions or features mentioned in the sellers advertising, or written on the boxes, then you've been misled. There won't be a firmware file that can magically give it functions it wasn't designed for.

So yes.. if you flash any of those firmwares to them... you will 'destroy' them with little chance of recovery.

Re: Which firmware to flash
 

Hmm
you flash WLAN Router from Linksys with dd-wrt to gain more feactures
and more stable hardware
you flash bios from mainboard to gain new features and solve problems
you flash writers (CD/DVD/Video recorder) to gain new features,
more compatibly to other formats, solve problems ...
I am used to that ...

Why can't i update this:
2006/08/15
CTW500_S75

to the latest 9.050?
And first make a dump with the s1mp3 tool?

Why are there images at s1mp3 for example:
3.68 version ? Can't i update and get some new menu functions and features?
I know if there is no radio, there want be one avaible, but firmware updates always help with problems and new features!

So an update can't be done?
Why is it then on several sites described, like "s1mp3" that you can gain new features?

I just thought to make a dump with s1mp3 tool and then try,
just wanted to know which images i could try/use ...
So can somebody help me out or not?

No you can't.

A router is vastly different to an mp4 player in case you hadn't noticed

I'm saying an update can't be done and shouldn't even be attempted. You can't gain extra features in an mp4 player by a firmware 'update'.

Just because s1mp3 have certain versions, doesn't mean one of those versions will be even remotely compatible with your player. And show me where they say "You can gain extra features by updating a players firmware".. show me... PLEASE. I would really like to know.

Seriously, you can't compare a simple mp4 player to a WLAN Router from Linksys can you? You can't compare a DVD ROM or DVD Player to one either.
Just because some hardware devices can benefit from these updates... believe it or not.. doesn't mean that all devices do.
You can't even extract a full version of fw 9.0.50 using s1fwx. Oh sure you get a file as a result but if you take notice of the operations output report you'll notice errors in it. The resulting file will be missing some critical files needed to make a complete firmware dump. If it doesn't have a radio then a firmware update won't give it a radio if it hasn't got a FM Radio chip in it huh. The radio is HARDWARE.. not software.

It's simple.. if you flash foriegn firmware to your player it will die an early death. But as always, people do not believe this because they always think they know better. I could say "Go ahead and see if i'm lying, just don't come crying to me when your player dies" But that would defeat the purpose of me being here on this forum helping others.

I've said before, when it comes to mp4 players:

Is your player running Microsoft Windows? .. No? Then it doesn't need updating!

Just let me say this in advance:

"I told you so"

???

Look here:
http://www.mympxplayer.org/full-vers...500-df413.html
They say try this for more features ... why should they do that?
And the one who did the update has solved problems ... too + features

cobra98 , if you clicked the Download button, you will see a DISCLAIMER telling you that none of the firmware files would give you more functions, and only to use it for recovering DEAD players.

Yes, all the big names like Linksys, Asus, etc etc has firmware updates to improve and add additional features. But do you know which factory or company your player came from? You won't flash an Asus firmware into a Linksys hardware would you?

Here are some facts:

1. There is only 1 available firmware extraction software S1fwx v3.2, which currently ONLY supports upto v9.0.43 extraction, nothing above that. So no, nobody could help you extract the v9.0.50 firmware you have.

2. These player manufacturers DO NOT practice proper versions control. So even if you had 2 players stating the same version number, most likely the firmware coding would be slightly different, and not compatible. In other words, there could be thousands of variants of the same version number.

We have been in this forum for some time, and have seen hundreds or even thousands of dead players due to "firmware updates". Just have a look in the Dead Players section of the forum, and you will understand better.

umm hello? Did you READ what is being said there?

version 9.0.43 is not a replacement for YOUR 9.0.50. And by the way, thats not "s1mp3" and it does not say "that you can gain new features"
Why?
Take another look...
Does your mp4 player look anything remotely like the one in the picture? hmm ?

Well i've seen your pics and it doesn't. So what do you think?

There is much more to it than "CTW500"

I have downloaded the latest software from
www.tychonic.com
-> mpu306

With the upgrade tool following info shows:

S1 Mp3 Player
Wilson Co. Ltd.

for the first player:
9.0.50
for the second player:
9.0.43

9.0.43 is the software version correct?

The guy on this link:
http://www.mympxplayer.org/full-vers...500-df413.html

is talking of an upgrade possiblity, saying try update ...
so there a people which succeeded in upgrading correct?

Listen to us ok...

The firmware you have there... do you know what the player looks like? The player it came from?

If it doesn't look like your player... then it isn't compatible. Ok.. do you understand that?

Re: Which firmware to flash
 

Dump with s1fwx v3.0 for both devices:

init device...
set device to f-mode...
get info from device...
ic version = 0x0000
storage info = 0x0602, 0x0000, 0x0000, 0x0000
device = 'S1 Mp3 Player'
manufacturer = 'Wilson Co. Ltd.'
bootflash type = 'F285'
brom version = 3.0.80
firmware version = 9.0.43
read boot record...
detect firmware size...
error: Das System kann nicht vom angegebenen Gerõt lesen.

warning: unknown firmware file
read flash...
error: Das System kann nicht vom angegebenen Gerõt lesen.

write to file 'dump.bin'...

---[ info ]-----------------------------------------------
filename = 'dump.bin'
filetype = afi
md5 = EDADB22A1D4AC40FE6A2D8B345AFCDA5

---[ info:afi ]-------------------------------------------
file id = 'AFI '
vendor id = 0x6977
product id = 0x6552
version = 9.0.43
date = 00/00/0000

+---filename---+ +---size---+ +-type-+ +---+ +--chksum--+
| BRECF285.BIN | | 16kb | | F285 | | B | | 1A8B6C42 |
| FWIMAGE.FW | | 6mb | | | | I | | 383F104C |
| SYSINFO.BIN | | 192bytes | | | | | | 0F1E50AA |
+--------------+ +----------+ +------+ +---+ +----------+

---[ info ]-----------------------------------------------
filename = 'dump.bin.FWIMAGE.FW'
filetype = unknown
md5 = DA6A0D097E307AC52ED9B4AD551801FC

for second: (this with missing radio and games)
init device...
set device to f-mode...
get info from device...
ic version = 0x0000
storage info = 0x0602, 0x0000, 0x0000, 0x0000
device = 'S1 Mp3 Player'
manufacturer = 'Wilson Co. Ltd.'
bootflash type = 'F285'
brom version = 3.0.80
firmware version = 9.0.50
read boot record...
detect firmware size...
error: Das System kann nicht vom angegebenen Gerõt lesen.

warning: unknown firmware file
read flash...
error: Das System kann nicht vom angegebenen Gerõt lesen.

write to file 'dump.bin'...

---[ info ]---------------------------------------------------------
filename = 'dump.bin'
filetype = afi
md5 = 4CA642C482306ACDA65F9893914A6A96

---[ info:afi ]-----------------------------------------------------
file id = 'AFI '
vendor id = 0x6977
product id = 0x6552
version = 9.0.50
date = 00/00/0000

+---filename---+ +---size---+ +-type-+ +---+ +--chksum--+
| BRECF285.BIN | | 16kb | | F285 | | B | | DC6268CD |
| FWIMAGE.FW | | 6mb | | | | I | | 383F104C |
| SYSINFO.BIN | | 192bytes | | | | | | B2100D82 |
+--------------+ +----------+ +------+ +---+ +----------+

---[ info ]---------------------------------------------------------
filename = 'dump.bin.FWIMAGE.FW'
filetype = unknown
md5 = DA6A0D097E307AC52ED9B4AD551801FC

cobra98 , you will need S1fwx v3.1 or v3.2 to dump the v9.0.43 firmware. v3.0 which was what you used, does not support v9.0.43 at all.

You cannot extract v9.0.50 as none of these tools support this version yet.

Re: Which firmware to flash
 

Hi,
Version 3 seemed to extract half of it,
Version 3.2 gave only an info and then said with both devices
-> unsupported ... where do i get 3.1?

Which Software should i use for converting/flashing?
I have the Mp3 Player Utilies 4 installed, which converts Videos to amv very well ... but Formating always gives me the message "unsupported device", formatting with windows to FAT works

The device with the 9.0.0.50 version is missing games and radio (which is described in the manual), also it keeps rebooting sometimes ...
(unstable)
To load it wasn't so easy ... i used the device for loading from my other player that worked, the loading the plug attached to this device didn't do the job ...

So i really think of updating it, because i think its a wrong/faulty 9.0.0.50
because of missing "games" ...

Is it possible to install games to it? Phonebook is supported too?

Thanks for help :-)

cobra98, i think i'm starting to see your problem.

Why don't you just contact your seller and tell him that your new players don't have the features you wanted?

If you kill your players because of flashing wrong firmware you won't get a refund or replacement.

lol cobra you seem a idiot , ive just scanend down the page , every time someone suggest somthing you try to convice people otherwise that its the right thing to do , If you want to flash the firmware and brick your player , go ahead , see what happens..

Radio cannot be a feature that you can get , a player will have the radio feature in the menu if there is a radio cghip instaklled , there isnt a radio feature ebcause the chip isnt installed.

games :

you can possible get new games but the chances are you wont get any , if your current firmware has none on it its likley that there is other suitable fiormwares for your player that dont have games built in either , look , your just gonn kill your plaeyr if yu flash firmware oto it , and the games are shitty anyway , there i no point in doing it , so dont

lite,
i get the distinct impression he's not reading our posts anyway

lol