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chaoscreater 18th Oct 2007 1:03 am

Rockhip mp4 player update help needed
 
ok, so i have a 1GB Rockchip MP4 player. I know it's a Rockchip player cuz on the manual it says so and plus the firmware update tool also says Rockchip somewhere i forgot but i'm pretty sure it's a Rockchip firmware, also i remember asking this be4 and somebody did confirm for me it's a Rockchip player.

Somebody also told me that it's not good updating the firmware but i forgot the reasons, however this time i wanna update it and i don't care, you can still explain to me the reasons why it's bad but i still wanna try updating it. Reason being is that i got a new fone that is better than my mp4, a Sony Ericsson W950i actually and it basically takes out my mp4 player so i don't care if i break it, i just wanna update it and if it works i'll be happy cuz after all it makes sense to me that updating something, especially softwares or firmwares, will make it better, so i'm willing to risk it.

the version of the current firmware i have rite now is:

00.00.0004
Date: 2006-11-14

and here are some pictures of my mp4 player:

http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h3...r/IMG_1937.jpg
http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h3...r/IMG_1935.jpg


so yea, i need the newest firmware and program for updating the firmware, also i need a program that can restore the firmware or backup the firmware and a program that can fixed dead players in case i screwed up, not that it matters much since i have a new fone but i might still need it in future.

and btw, i did search at the download sections but i'm not sure which one to use, some are for different RockChip players and i'm not too sure exactly what mine is so i'll just leave u PROs to find out for me, thanks.

just to make my questions more easier for u guys to solve, i'll list them like this:

1. newest firmare required
2. newest firmware updating tool required
3. newest tool to restore/backup firmware required
4. tool to fixed dead players

oh and plz give me instructions and a noob guide in case i don't understand wat to do, thanks. If possible, please give me some suggestions for tweaks or mods that i could use for my mp4 player, maybe like add extra games in it or a visualization while playing music.

makd511 18th Oct 2007 4:11 am

Re: Rockhip mp4 player update help needed
 
here we go
first the lecture ;)

there is a 99.9% chance to destroy the player

lecture over

to review your points

1. newest firmare required - there is none
2. newest firmware updating tool required
3. newest tool to restore/backup firmware required there is none yet
4. tool to fixed dead players there is none (ish)

basically you have a no-brand mp4 player using random firmware - you can not extract ths firmware for restore later.

there is no new update that will do anything to your player at all, so basically no ne features to be gained

if you had a branded player like onda, teclast etc then firmwares are actively updated to add new features - but not on no-branded ones.

the best you could do is to try firmwares suitable for 2.0" screens in the download section and maybe you will be lucky - but they wi=ont give anty new features - in fact some of them may remove the games section or the radio.

the best you can do if you have success with one of the firmwares is you may be able to change the look by skinning the players images.

so you need

1. firmware from here - but select ones for 2" screen only!!!
rockchip firmwares

2. consumer update - various versions some work, some not, just try and see.
try this one for starters

3. rklogoedit - for updating and skinning the images
rklogoedit

4. checksum fix tool for when you have used rklogoedit and saved the file
checksum tool

5. read articles by member knob - rockchip GURU - the best
knob - rockchip guru

useful bits
dead player recovery guide

this is all for now - any problems you have or things you need to know regarding any of the tools etc above have been posted, so search and ye shall find

in short, you may lose features but WILL NOT gain any
good chance to fry the player for good
skinning the player is about all you can do (which is fun), providing you find a working firmware

have fun

DaremoS 18th Oct 2007 5:03 am

Re: Rockhip mp4 player update help needed
 
If this player, which is identical to my LDX LD-696, is working, you better don't touch it if you don't have corresponding firmware.

This player which is of 2.2" screen have been used by lots of manufacturers to mount lots of different configurations, which my vary small details enough to bring you a wonderful Blank screens as it in my player (faithful dog).

I have had it with blank screen for months trying every possible firmware to make it return to light... not succeeding yet.

Your firmware version is rather old
00.00.0004
Date: 2006-11-14
I've seen new version of it dated 2007-06, which make more difficult to find proper firmware.

Just an example somebody here saves the same player with Walker firmware, downloadable here, I just can't with the same firmware.
Anyway if you still want to try and take the risk of spoil your device... in this site is the latest version of Firmware Update for rockchip and a couple of firmware that fits your device.
I do have a original firmware for this player too. I can upload it..

Let us know what you decide to do... we always want to know of people who take risks.

:D

chaoscreater 18th Oct 2007 8:18 pm

hmm ok thx for the detail info guys, but may i ask y is it 99.99% i'll break it? Isn't it good to update softwares/firmwares?

makd511 18th Oct 2007 10:58 pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by chaoscreater";p=&quot (Post 39194)
hmm ok thx for the detail info guys, but may i ask y is it 99.99% i'll break it? Isn't it good to update softwares/firmwares?

the player you have is a no-brand player,

the advantage: cheap

the disadvantage: no support

these players are made in their thousands by hundreds of factories, they are made for quick sale only and they dont expect people to keep them for long

there are a few branded players from china that may use the same rockchip as yours, and many of these companies do provide firmware updates to enhance the players functionalities and fix bugs, but you pay more for these devices.

firmware is very hardware specific and is tweaked by the factories to suit the components they use, button layout etc so this means that firmwares are not compatible across the board, regardless if the chip is the same or the version number looks the same.

so in short, yes firmware updates can be good, but ONLY if you have a branded and supported player. But no-branded players do not have this luxuary and any firmware updating you do is at your own risk and if you look around this site you will find many people with "white screen" problems after upgrading

no-one is saying dont do it but just be aware that, even if you find a firmware with the same version number, there is no guarantee it will work

if you are not bothered about breaking the player then go for it, it si fun and eventually satisfying if you can get it to work and if you do the only thing you can then do is a little skin modification as there will be no new functionality

chaoscreater 19th Oct 2007 12:39 am

thx that's very detailed, i guess i don't need to update it then.

Buzzygirl 19th Oct 2007 7:48 pm

Hi chaoscreater,

I wouldn't try to upgrade it, unless you don't mind breaking it. I have this very same player. I take it for what it is... a standard, lower-end Rockchip player. I would like to be able to tweak it as well, but I have been warned repeatedly against doing so for the same reasons stated above.

chaoscreater 29th Jan 2008 11:38 pm

hi guys, sry to bring out a dead/inactive topic but now i have a problem. My sister's mp4 which is exactly the same as the one i have, is now screwed. She had it in her school bag and her water bottle leaked and the water got inside, now when she tries to start the player, it works but 2 problems occur:

1. either she starts the player and sees the menu screen for maybe 3 seconds and the player shuts down automaticlaly itself.

2. it loads properly, plays the song properly etc but then the buttons will stop responding.

so now, i wanna try and flash it, maybe it's useless but it's screwed/dead anyway so i might as well try flashing it.

so ya i tried the sites above but i'm not EXACTLY sure which rockchip firmware i need..........

and since i'll be flashing it i might as well tweak it a little, just for experiment. I wanna know how to change the themes and add a few games to it, i forgot the answers ppl gave me.

also, am i able to change the games or something with this tool? I'm not quite sure wat it does.

http://www.mympxplayer.org/rockchip-...ing-df728.html

thanks, and don't worry if this won't work, it's dead anyway and my sister is getting a MP4 watch anyway.

nzer_4_lyf 30th Jan 2008 1:12 am

If I was you, I would sit it in a hot water cupboard wrapped around a towel or something for say 3 days.

knob 30th Jan 2008 11:38 am

You need to open up the player and put it in a warm dry place for a day or so.

You need to get all the trapped moisture out of the player before trying to restart it again, this needs to be done now before the pcb gets chance to corrode.

While you got the player open take a note of the PCB number and Display number and post it back on this site if you want to find a firmware match or need to reflash it.

Post using the format:-

Control: RK2606
Plate(PCB)No: ????????
Screen No: ??????

chaoscreater 30th Jan 2008 12:55 pm

ya i posted it in the first post and my sis used a hair dryer to dry it..........it's like, already dried. It's not like the whole player was soaked in water, just maybe a bit but now it's not functioning properly.

nzer_4_lyf 30th Jan 2008 1:08 pm

I am pretty sure I have seen those players for sale on TradeMe- did you buy it from TradeMe?

If so, ask the seller if they have any tips on what to do, you never know they might be generous and get it fixed for a small price.

When you dried it was the player opened up?

chaoscreater 31st Jan 2008 3:16 pm

ya and no it's no on Trademe, i got it from Taiwan at a very cheap price. Well it really doesn't matter since i can always get cheap imported from Taiwan, or just buy on ChinaVasion.com or Mp4Nation.com, they have really good deals if u guys wanna look up there.

but right now, i just don't care about this player at all, my sister has a new one anyway, i just wanna try firmware experiment but i just need a few good tools and instructions and i can't find out which firmware i need.

chaoscreater 2nd Feb 2008 2:48 pm

ok so i downloaded a few firmwares that i think is the one for the mp4, *220x176* and tried flashing them. 2 of them weren't usable with the firmware updater but the 3rd one did, i flashed it and i get a white screen.

So ya what now? It's even worse now, i need the proper firmware.

Or is there a firmware dumping tool? I can try dumping the firmware off my own mp4 which is the same as my sister's.

knob 2nd Feb 2008 3:03 pm

This is how to get into update mode,

All you do is this,

1) Switch the player OFF using the main on/off switch.

2) Hold down the "MENU" or the "PLAY" button and keep it held down.(try the other buttons if these dont work)

3) Connect the usb to the player.

4) Wait for about 10 seconds before releasing the button.

5) You should be now in "ROCK USB" upgrade mode

6) Then just start ConsumerUpdate and upload your firmware.

here are selection of firmwares for 220x176 to try:-

http://en.s1mp3.net/?action=browse&s...OCK2606%20Chip

sorry to say that there is no firmware extractor for Rockchip firmware yet....

chaoscreater 2nd Feb 2008 3:09 pm

hi ya i did that, it updated the firmware and restarted my mp4 but i think the firmware isn't the correct one so when i start my mp4 it shows a white screen...........well either way, it's still screwed. Even when i haven't done this yet, i could navigate a bit on the menu and play the song and movie as if it was normal but after a few seconds the button keys stop responding and it just shuts down itself.........now it's just a white screen, no menu lol.

Well i'm still down to try out other solutions, i'm not in a panic right now, like i said this is just for fun and testing but it'll be awesome to get it working again, i just need the proper firmware and i've downloaded a lot of them and only one works with the firmware update program. Which is actually the one that came with the Consumer Update download.......

chaoscreater 2nd Feb 2008 3:14 pm

hi ya i did that, it updated the firmware and restarted my mp4 but i think the firmware isn't the correct one so when i start my mp4 it shows a white screen...........well either way, it's still screwed. Even when i haven't done this yet, i could navigate a bit on the menu and play the song and movie as if it was normal but after a few seconds the button keys stop responding and it just shuts down itself.........now it's just a white screen, no menu lol.

Well i'm still down to try out other solutions, i'm not in a panic right now, like i said this is just for fun and testing but it'll be awesome to get it working again, i just need the proper firmware and i've downloaded a lot of them and only one works with the firmware update program. Which is actually the one that came with the Consumer Update download.......

ok i opened the player ONCE AGAIN and took a good look at the chip and now i got more info:

Rockchip RK2606A
B56285 0640

well after doing a few searches on this forum as well as Google, it seems there isn't any firmware for it........or i may be wrong.

knob 2nd Feb 2008 3:21 pm

A newer "Consumer Update" program is here:-

http://www.mympxplayer.org/rockchip-...ate-df665.html

It will accept a wider range of firmware types if you want to give it a try:

chaoscreater 2nd Feb 2008 3:22 pm

hi ya i did that, it updated the firmware and restarted my mp4 but i think the firmware isn't the correct one so when i start my mp4 it shows a white screen...........well either way, it's still screwed. Even when i haven't done this yet, i could navigate a bit on the menu and play the song and movie as if it was normal but after a few seconds the button keys stop responding and it just shuts down itself.........now it's just a white screen, no menu lol.

Well i'm still down to try out other solutions, i'm not in a panic right now, like i said this is just for fun and testing but it'll be awesome to get it working again, i just need the proper firmware and i've downloaded a lot of them and only one works with the firmware update program. Which is actually the one that came with the Consumer Update download.......

ok i opened the player ONCE AGAIN and took a good look at the chip and now i got more info:

Rockchip RK2606A
B56285 0640

well after doing a few searches on this forum as well as Google, it seems there isn't any firmware for it........or i may be wrong.

chaoscreater 2nd Feb 2008 3:24 pm

hi ya i did that, it updated the firmware and restarted my mp4 but i think the firmware isn't the correct one so when i start my mp4 it shows a white screen...........well either way, it's still screwed. Even when i haven't done this yet, i could navigate a bit on the menu and play the song and movie as if it was normal but after a few seconds the button keys stop responding and it just shuts down itself.........now it's just a white screen, no menu lol.

Well i'm still down to try out other solutions, i'm not in a panic right now, like i said this is just for fun and testing but it'll be awesome to get it working again, i just need the proper firmware and i've downloaded a lot of them and only one works with the firmware update program. Which is actually the one that came with the Consumer Update download.......

ok i opened the player ONCE AGAIN and took a good look at the chip and now i got more info:

Rockchip RK2606A
B56285 0640

well after doing a few searches on this forum as well as Google, it seems there isn't any firmware for it........or i may be wrong.

chaoscreater 2nd Feb 2008 3:26 pm

HOLY shit, i had a mean lag sorry for the uhh....triple post...

nzer_4_lyf 2nd Feb 2008 3:35 pm

Lol typical New Zealand internet :P damn telecon

chaoscreater 2nd Feb 2008 4:10 pm

ok i donwloaded the newest consumer updater, and ya some of the firmwares can be loaded now except i can't detect my mp4 anymore since i updated it just then in the above post and now i have a white screen...........i tried following the dead player guide and run the tweezer on the legs of the rockchip but it doesn't work since the chips are different and i don't see any legs, it's more like an integrated chip........well i tried putting the tweezer on parts where i think is suitable but still not working, if i plug in the usb my PC can still detect it and i can still use the storage system which is good cuz at least i still have one use of this player, but it doesn't detect with the consumer update now..

knob 3rd Feb 2008 3:06 am

Re: Rockhip mp4 player update help needed
 
You need to be in RockUSB mode first to flash the firmware, you can still work with a white screen.

Double click on the remove hardware icon in your system tray.

http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/a...lipboard01.jpg

If you are in RockUSB mode you will see the icon in the window like this:-

http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/a...lipboard03.jpg

To get into RockUSb mode
1) switch the player off, using the proper on/off switch
2) hold down the menu button (try other buttons in turn if menu button don't work).
3) connect the USB cable from the PC
4) wait for a full 10 seconds with the button held down
5) look for the RockUSB icon.
6) then release the button
7) If you see the RockUSB icon, load the firmware for your player using Consumerupdate program.

btw, if you want to try and match the EXACT firmware you need the serial number off the printed circuit board, mine was "ESR013-YD093_A_V2" for example, and type the first part e.g. "ESR013" into this search engine http://en.s1mp3.net/

chaoscreater 3rd Feb 2008 11:11 am

well i did that at the first try be4 i had a white screen and it worked, i was in RockUSB mode and it updated my firmware etc etc, now, no matter what buttons i press, after waiting 10 secs and connecting the USB, it always detect my mp4 as USB but not ROCKUSB device.......i'll try again

knob 3rd Feb 2008 2:47 pm

Re: Rockhip mp4 player update help needed
 
Looks like the pin shorting hard recovery method is the only chance, do you have a chip on the pcb that looks like this?

http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/a...ola/dead30.jpg

http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/a...ola/dead12.jpg

These are the pins posted on a chinese website which have been known to work if shorted out..

chaoscreater 3rd Feb 2008 5:36 pm

ya i tried that too but there's like, 4 legs or pins on all sides.........my camera isn't that good but here:

http://i32.tinypic.com/351tqf6.jpg
http://i25.tinypic.com/ztccjn.jpg
http://i30.tinypic.com/2njesma.jpg
http://i25.tinypic.com/295g420.jpg

also, don't know y but my previous message got deleted or something, so i'll type it again.......i checked my manual and it says hold the menu button to get in the RockUSB mode, the instruction is same as yours, so i did that and kept holding the button down but whenever i try connecting the usb, it always detect it as storage device instead of RockUsb........i also tried all the other buttons too but didn't work, it always shows a white screen when i connect..........

btw in my manual it also shows the disc contents, it comes with the drivers, avi converter, firmware updater and the firmware itself but on the actual disc i only have the converter and drivers, lol. I guess the other contents were taken off........


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