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Skinski 15th Jun 2009 6:55 pm

Which low level format software? Full details. 4gb hacked to show 32gb.
 
I need some advice on what software I need to use to remove the memory hack on this device so that it will show its true capacity of 4GB. Any help would be greatly appreciated. The unit arrived today and it was sold to me as a 32gb player for $27.

It is actually quite a nice player. Solid design and it plays AVI format which is nice. It even has a stopwatch and calculator. heh

I opened it and found the memory chip to be a Samsung K9LBG08UOM which is 4GB.


Top View - The player says "RIZONE" on it.
http://img44.imageshack.us/img44/6789/topviewe.jpg

Opened up.
http://img31.imageshack.us/img31/5470/openedup.jpg

Back view with the obligatory 32GB sticker.
http://img31.imageshack.us/img31/5176/backview.jpg

Welcome screen.
http://img196.imageshack.us/img196/6...omescreeno.jpg

Menu screen.
http://img196.imageshack.us/img196/3862/menuscreen.jpg

lolita 16th Jun 2009 1:43 am

Those pictures are too blurry to be useful but I do see an Actions logo... and what looks to be some SDRAM? This seems to be one of the Series-11 Rockchip-competitors, of which there is currently little information available on. You can try partition resizing software to resize the main partition to the correct size (slightly less than 4GB is recommended, e.g. 3970M)

Skinski 16th Jun 2009 12:30 pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by lolita (Post 281475)
Those pictures are too blurry to be useful but I do see an Actions logo... and what looks to be some SDRAM? This seems to be one of the Series-11 Rockchip-competitors, of which there is currently little information available on. You can try partition resizing software to resize the main partition to the correct size (slightly less than 4GB is recommended, e.g. 3970M)

What partitioning program do you recommend?

Partition Magic cannot see USB Media.

I also tried Swiss Knife but I get an error upon loading. I did a little reading and apparently Swiss Knife is not compatible with Windows XP.

Sorry about the photos but my camera will not give detailed closeups. I must have taken 20 shots and then picked the best ones.

Thanks.

lolita 17th Jun 2009 12:42 am

gparted should work for this. Also, set your camera to Macro mode or just don't get too close to the subject.

Skinski 18th Jun 2009 7:59 pm

I am still learning.


Gparted is for Linux?

I am running XP. My Xp doesn't recognise any of the Gparted files.

Are there any other partition programs that can see a USB drive?


Thanks.

lolita 18th Jun 2009 11:48 pm

Use the gparted livecd.

pat77 19th Jun 2009 4:58 am

Hi,

I have the exact same Rizone player and I also want to resize it to 4GB. I couldn't get that done with MP3 Player Utilities 4.05 as described on this site.
The firmware in the payer reads 10 19_090312_150_4M_8x
What kind of player is it and how do I resize the memory?

whistler 19th Jun 2009 5:26 am

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skinski (Post 281465)

It is actually quite a nice player. Solid design and it plays AVI format which is nice. It even has a stopwatch and calculator. heh

I opened it and found the memory chip to be a Samsung K9LBG08UOM which is 4GB.


Hi, it does seem like a nice player apart from the hack. Have you tried it with an sd card to see if you could extend the memory?
Thanks in advance for your reply.

pat77 23rd Jun 2009 2:02 am

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pat77 23rd Jun 2009 2:04 am

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whistler 23rd Jun 2009 2:06 am

Do you need some tools to open the mpx player? Or is it like a cellfone, kind of a click system?

Binh@MyMPx 23rd Jun 2009 2:18 am

Quote:

Originally Posted by whistler (Post 281647)
Do you need some tools to open the mpx player? Or is it like a cellfone, kind of a click system?

Majority of the players are held together by screws and some are hidden underneath the stickers. So you will need at a screw driver for the majority of the players if you want to open it up.

whistler 23rd Jun 2009 2:20 am

Ok, thanks for the info :) I will try and open it up one of these days

Binh@MyMPx 23rd Jun 2009 2:22 am

Quote:

Originally Posted by whistler (Post 281649)
Ok, thanks for the info :) I will try and open it up one of these days

Good luck.
If you have time, take some photos and post them to share with everyone. If you're going to open your player, you should make the most of it and share it with everyone else :).

whistler 23rd Jun 2009 2:37 am

Will do but I guess they will be the same pictures as posted in this thread since it is the same player :) However, before opening it i will probably try and test the memory by putting stuf onto it. If it is idd only 4gb I will open it to send prove to the seller that it is a 4gb chip. :)

admin 23rd Jun 2009 3:02 am

I would say do it as soon as possible so if it's hacked, you can go around getting a refund or partial refund for it.

whistler 23rd Jun 2009 3:04 am

Of course I wont wait too long, however I will only get it tomorrow and tomorrow my girlfriend comes back after a week of absence so my priority will not be opening the mpx player :)

pat77 23rd Jun 2009 5:05 am

There's only 4 small screws, 2 on each side. No hidden ones.

Just as an indication: I paid 19GBP for it and got 7GBP refunded. So you know how much you can ask for.

I don't know if anyone else has this issue also but my settings will reset after turning the player off and on again. So when I set the backlight option to "Off" it will be back on the default 10s when I turn it back on. Can anyone confirm?

Oh and I'd appreciate any suggestions for updating the player to it's true size.

lolita 24th Jun 2009 12:21 am

I'd like to see what controller this player is using. Seems to be a Series-11 Actions, but maybe there are some using Rockchip as well... all I can say is that it's one of the more powerful ones since it needs external SRAM.

pat77 24th Jun 2009 1:27 am

Can you identify the controller on my pictures? I'll make a closeup if you need me to.
If it's the one with the white stuff on it, I peeled it off and there's no printing on it.

Binh@MyMPx 24th Jun 2009 2:33 am

Quote:

Originally Posted by pat77 (Post 281659)
There's only 4 small screws, 2 on each side. No hidden ones.

Just as an indication: I paid 19GBP for it and got 7GBP refunded. So you know how much you can ask for.

I don't know if anyone else has this issue also but my settings will reset after turning the player off and on again. So when I set the backlight option to "Off" it will be back on the default 10s when I turn it back on. Can anyone confirm?

Oh and I'd appreciate any suggestions for updating the player to it's true size.

How are you turning off your player? Are you using the switch or just pressing and holding down on the [Play] button? If you hold down on the [Play] button, it should do a 'soft' shutdown, which should preserve your settings. However, if you use the [On/Off] switch, it will most likely loose the settings. Try that and see if that helps.

pat77 24th Jun 2009 5:12 am

That did it. I had to hold down the "M" button and it went into Sleep Mode/Standby and after that I could turn off the switch without losing the settings. Although it seems that the time stops running as well when the player is turned off with the switch.

I think the buttons are messed up though because the "M" button seems to act as the play/confirm button in every option. And the play button acts as a menu/option button.
The order of the buttons on my player are: return - previous - next- M - volume - play.
Unfortunately the buttons are paired so I can't change the order without messing up any other buttons.


lolita 25th Jun 2009 1:10 am

Quote:

Originally Posted by pat77 (Post 281690)
Can you identify the controller on my pictures? I'll make a closeup if you need me to.
If it's the one with the white stuff on it, I peeled it off and there's no printing on it.

Unfortunately, it is. However, you should still be able to get USB VID and PID by plugging the player in and using a suitable USB diagnostic program, or simply looking in the registry (search the Internet, it will explain the procedure in full detail.)

whistler 25th Jun 2009 1:55 am

I got the player and it is actualy quite nice. It even played avi movie without converting. I opened it up (will post pictures later) but i can hardly read what is written on the chip. I dont see samsung written on it like ive seen on pictures on this site and i can only make out faintly TH(53)NV(G5)

Im not even sure about the things I put between brackets. Do you guys know a site where the different chips are listed so i could still find a match with the partial stuff i could read? Thanks in advance!

whistler 25th Jun 2009 2:24 am

I have done some searching and it would appear I might be one of the lucky ones with a real 32 Gb It would seem it is nog a samsung chip at all but a toshiba chip. A 32Gb toshiba chip has this code: TH58NVG5S2EBA20 I guess i will have to put some more data on it to be sure!

whistler 25th Jun 2009 5:13 am

Sorry for the tripple post but I have troubles with turning the player off and on. When i connect it to the pc it turns on automaticcally. When its on holding the M button shuts it down. However when it is off and i switch it to on nothing happens. Also holding the M button while the switch is on ON doesnt turn the player on. Anyone else having this problem or knows how to fix it? Thanks in advance!

pat77 25th Jun 2009 5:56 am

You know that 32Gb (small b) means gigaBIT right? So unfortunately yours also seems to be a 4GB player.

To turn it back on after shutting it down with the M button I used the play button to turn it back on.
Make sure the player is properly charged though because mine acted a little funny with turning on/off when I got it as well.
After charging it overnight it was okay.

whistler 25th Jun 2009 6:37 am

Right, wel that is some bad news :) I was all excited it was a real one and turns out it is fake afterall :) Guess I will have to contact the seller

I found pushing M twice instead of holding it turns the player on aswell.

When connecting it to the pc and chosing the third option, charging through USB the player turns of after a while. I was wondering if it then still keeps charging? I would guess yes but i would like to be sure. How long does the player need to be charged?

Thanks for helping!

pat77 26th Jun 2009 12:38 am

I don't really know how long it takes. I left it overnight so I also don't know if the screen went blank.
Guess there's only one way to find out ;)

@lolita: Any suggestions on a "suitable USB diagnostic program"?

pat77 29th Jun 2009 12:47 am

I found the information from my player. It turns out it is an Actions player after all but the product type might be incorrect as it shows that it's 2GB and it is definitely 4GB.

[Hub 4 Port 7] <- [USB Bus] <- SIV - System Information Viewer V3.36

Information for [Hub 4 Port 7] State Connected at Address 5 with 2 Pipes (44) Device USB Mass Storage Device

Device USB V2.00 LangID 0409 1 Class 0.0.0 Class 0 SubClass 0 Protocol 0 Maximum Packet Size 64 (EP0) Configurations 1 Descriptors 4
Vendor 0x10D6 Actions Semiconductor
Product 0x1101 D-Wave 2GB MP4 Player / AK1025 MP3/MP4 Player
Revision 0x0100 Revision: 10D6:1101:0100
Manufacturer (1) "GENERIC"
Product Name (2) "USB DISK DEVICE"
Serial Number (3) "???K"
Configuration Interfaces 1 Bus or Self Powered Maximum Power 2 mA Attributes 0xC0 Configuration 0x01 (4) "Self-powered"
Interface 0.0 MI 00 Endpoints 2 Bulk SFF-8070i Class 8 SubClass 5 Protocol 80 Alt 0 Name (5) "Mass Storage"
Endpoint 2 Address 0x82 (In) Bulk Maximum Packet Size 0x0200 (512) Attributes 0x02 Interval 0
Endpoint 1 Address 0x01 (Out) Bulk Maximum Packet Size 0x0200 (512) Attributes 0x02 Interval 1

lolita 30th Jun 2009 12:43 am

PID 1101 is used by a bunch of their chips, ATJ209x/AK102x/ACU75xx for example all have this same PID. It arises from the USB driver in the firmware, and same with the "2GB MP4 Player" description. But from the pictures it looks like a Series 13, and unfortunately you won't have much luck with firmware for that -- just resize the partition to get around the wrong memory size.

pat77 30th Jun 2009 4:56 am

So you do NOT have new firmware? ;);)

I think I'll follow your advise to resize the partition for now so I don't have to worry about copying files onto the player without going over the 4GB limit. Thanx!

However if anyone finds a solution to the hack and can actually resize it I'll be happy to hear it.

kulych 2nd Jul 2009 5:39 am

Same problem
 
I have bought two of theese "Rizone" players too. Both stated as 32GB, real 4GB (Samsung chip K9LBG08U0M)
SAMSUNG's Digital World
I persuated the seller to refund full price. Then he told me I can keep the pleyers and asked me to leave possitive feedback; what a fool.. :)
Main chip is probably Action, part no. ATJ2135F. It looks like the manufacturer is Shenzen Honsin Technology Ltd.
Flash MP3 Player Manufacturer
The player there has a little amended covering, but the control buttons looks like they are in same possition. The specs also look the same.
I tried to find out more about the manufacturer to get firmware but had no luck.:mad: Maybe someone else will have.

fubag 6th Jul 2009 6:17 am

hey guys, id really appreciate it if you could please tell me how I could reformat my rizone mp4. Im using Windows 7 so it would be nice to know what software is compatible and can be used to resize.

thanks!


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