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fparri 5th Dec 2007 5:47 am

Just a couple of newbie questions, guys... :)

1. Does the encoding process create temporary files? If so, where are they located normally?

2. Is it possible to have 2-pass or 3-pass encoding? :)

jp 5th Dec 2007 10:24 am

Re: Free Open-Source converter for RockChip MPEG4 (XVID) pla
 
fparri: I don't think temporary files are left on your computer if infact they are created. Also don't think there is an option for multipass encoding.

In the past someone posted an ini file to be used with AVIConverter that allowed for multipass. It's on this site somewhere. It gives instructions how to encode without leaving temp files. Also Batman converter allows for multipass but no temp files left I believe.

I haven't found multipass to be worthwhile with my rockchip players. Didn't improve quality and took a lot longer. On the meizu forum, is suggested but rockchip play video better than the meizus according to dual user reports.

AVIConverter may convert files slightly faster than viDrop, however the conversion speed and ease of use of viDrop in dropping files singley, in batches, and successively makes it by far and away my choice of all the converters out there. The newest version has lots of options.

While lokster has worked on this, I still find the occasional file that misconverts dimensionally. Can be 318x240 rather than the required 320x240 for rockchip. These tend to be captured flv vids from youtube,...

The workaround for this is to insert the code below into the extra parameters box in viDrop. I stripped them out of AVIConverter ini. They override any other selections that apply.

Copy and paste each, select your other preferred parameters, then rename and save your new settings in the preset box at the top of the window. I convert to 20 or 24 fps with a normalize of 0.6 so that my speaker plays loud enough without having to use headphones.

Aspect 4:3

-vf-add scale=320:240 -vf-add expand=320:240:-1:-1:1

Aspect 16:9

-vf-add scale=320:180 -vf-add expand=320:240:-1:-1:1

tovmeod 5th Dec 2007 4:09 pm

Re: Free Open-Source converter for RockChip MPEG4 (XVID) pla
 
very nice piece of software, here is what I think may be improved:

1 - installer on a weird language, my windows didn't understand and the buttons had trash labels, in the first try to install I actually canceled it.

2 - actually I don't like much installers, why don't you distribute just the exe file so we could easily run it from the player?
I may be on a cybercafe or just away from home, would be nice to always have it with me

3 - select folder for conversion
I use miro, and I may want to watch the shows on the go, so it would be nice to just select miro download folder and the files added to batch with current config. currently I could navigate to the folder and select multiple files, but miro creates subfolders..
and output all the files on a output folder rather than the same folder the original file was, so I can easily select the files for copy to the player

4 - does it have to print all that stuff to the console?
it just adds overhead, and not little, I remember my first semester at the university, we had an assignment to compare the processing cost between math operations and simple io.. well.. we learned that io is VERY expensive


btw, I didn't understand the difference between panscan, addborders and keep aspect..

addborders would add borders to a wide screen video so we can watch it right? like the pc players usually do? this is my understanding of keeping aspect ratio, I'm a bit confused

thanks

jo gobel 5th Dec 2007 8:15 pm

ok, so ive converted a couple videos and both have came out kind of blotchy.

i have used the 320x240_high default settings and used Pan Scan to fill the screen.

the blotchyness only shows up if there is a large area of the same color on the screen, such as close ups on faces and opbjects.

i have confirmed that it does show up on multiple players, and not just my main one.

lokster 11th Dec 2007 6:34 am

I didn't had enough time lately to read the posts here...
I will answer some of the questions asked:

Quote:

Originally Posted by fparri";p=&quot (Post 41971)
Just a couple of newbie questions, guys... :)

1. Does the encoding process create temporary files? If so, where are they located normally?

2. Is it possible to have 2-pass or 3-pass encoding? :)

1: The encoding does not create temp files. Only the "Preview" creates "preview.avi" in your windows user temp directory, but this file is deleted automatically when you close vidrop.
2: Multipass encoding is not possible in vidrop. I don't see any real advantage of doing two pass encoding on low resolution videos... yes, the picture will be just slightly better, but the encoding time will be looonger...

Quote:

Originally Posted by tovmeod";p=&quot (Post 41990)
very nice piece of software, here is what I think may be improved:

1 - installer on a weird language, my windows didn't understand and the buttons had trash labels, in the first try to install I actually canceled it.

2 - actually I don't like much installers, why don't you distribute just the exe file so we could easily run it from the player?
I may be on a cybercafe or just away from home, would be nice to always have it with me

3 - select folder for conversion
I use miro, and I may want to watch the shows on the go, so it would be nice to just select miro download folder and the files added to batch with current config. currently I could navigate to the folder and select multiple files, but miro creates subfolders..
and output all the files on a output folder rather than the same folder the original file was, so I can easily select the files for copy to the player

4 - does it have to print all that stuff to the console?
it just adds overhead, and not little, I remember my first semester at the university, we had an assignment to compare the processing cost between math operations and simple io.. well.. we learned that io is VERY expensive


btw, I didn't understand the difference between panscan, addborders and keep aspect..

addborders would add borders to a wide screen video so we can watch it right? like the pc players usually do? this is my understanding of keeping aspect ratio, I'm a bit confused

thanks

1: I know about the installer... It will be fixed in the next version.
2: Maybe you don't like installers, but I do, and if I just put vidrop in 7z archive (because 7z format is free, and I don't like zip), there will be a lot of people who will ask me "how do I install this stupid program...". If you want your copy of vidrop to be portable, just install it somewhere, and then copy/move the whole installation folder to your player.
3: I think about adding options for selecting output directory - user defined or that of the input file (in the next version).
4: I think it's necessary to print all that "stuff" to the console. The information is useful sometimes when there are problems, and if you don't want to see it, just minimize the mencoder window :)

And finally, about panscan, addborders and keep aspect - just read one of my previous posts in this topic.


Quote:

Originally Posted by jo gobel";p=&quot (Post 41998)
ok, so ive converted a couple videos and both have came out kind of blotchy.

i have used the 320x240_high default settings and used Pan Scan to fill the screen.

the blotchyness only shows up if there is a large area of the same color on the screen, such as close ups on faces and opbjects.

i have confirmed that it does show up on multiple players, and not just my main one.

i have tried on a Hacha PA20 and an Onda vx858.

Maybe just the input file is broken? Try using some of the other presets, and see if the problem persists.
Also try different files with this same preset and see if there are problems.

jo gobel 11th Dec 2007 7:48 am

i have tried many different settings and videos and they all come out blochy.

i have determined that its the player and not the software because the videos are great on the PC but suck on the player.

greenh007 20th Dec 2007 6:19 am

Re: Free Open-Source converter for RockChip MPEG4 (XVID) pla
 
Hi,
Iam from Czech and my english is very poor. i think that this sw is excellent. but i cant convert correctly my video (688x528 Divx5). i try it many times, but vidrop give me video 312x240.
i set correct (in vidrop) 320x240, Pan&Scan resize.

very very please , H E L P M E.

thank you very much

paul

jp 24th Dec 2007 9:14 pm

Re: Free Open-Source converter for RockChip MPEG4 (XVID) pla
 
greenh007: I've occasionally had the same problem where a conversion doesn't end up being 320x240 but slightly off. What's worked for me is to insert the following into the Extra Mencoder Parameters box near the bottom of the second tab page. You can save a conversion profile with this addition allowing you to adjust the other parameters. Copy and paste the following:

-vf-add scale=320:240 -vf-add expand=320:240:-1:-1:1

Let me know if it works. It always has for me.

bucigabi 29th Dec 2007 4:46 am

Re: Free Open-Source converter for RockChip MPEG4 (XVID) pla
 
Hello!
Sorry for my English.
I can't download the program. This link doesn't work for me:
http://users2.titanichost.com/lokste...53-install.exe

So if somebody have a working link, Please help!

Thanks.

jp 29th Dec 2007 10:19 am

Re: Free Open-Source converter for RockChip MPEG4 (XVID) pla
 
lokster:
I've uploaded v0.53 to mympxplayer downloads as your download link seems to work sporadically and there have been several recent requests, on these forums, for a working download link for your excellent program.

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Download link: viDrop v0.53 AVI XVid Converter.
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bucigabi:
Once the upload has been vetted by admin it can be downloaded from the link above.


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