MP3-5 PLAYER...
 

Hi There,

I think my previous message disappeared? I cannot get my new player to play vids and its sposed to be easy. I came here in the past to learn how to use my old mp3-4 player and got great help then, and my one still works. However for a birthday gift I purchased one for my husband...mp4-5. See specs below.

Also it did not come with a disk...is that common? My last one did...

And when I have tried to convert files to what looks compatible to size, nothing seems to work...when I go to play it I of course get a format error. HELP!!!

Thanks much....Kiwimagic in NZ

SPECS:

This great new player is called an MP5 player because it auto formats the videos you put on meaning it will accept a much wider range of video formats and it is so easy to use.

Combined with its long life battery and expandable memory slot(add up to another 4GB using micro sd cards-see my other listings for a card).

Here are the specs of this great little unit:

Mp5 Player:

VIDEO PLAYING
- 16:9 Movie Play
- Video Format: RM, RMVB, AVI, FLV, MOV, ASF, MP4, WMV, 3GP, MPGmovie no need CD convert
- It is a revolution change for MP3 MP4 player, 8 hours Continue music playback or 4 hours Continue movie playback)
Come on, it is yours.

MUSIC PLAYING
- Supports MP3/WMA/WMV/ASF/WAV formats
- 8 EQ modes,ID3 display function

FM RADIO

- Built-in FM radio with FM content recording
- FM radio: 76MHz-91MHz / 87.5MHz-108MHz

VOICE RECORDING
- High Quality Voice Digital Recording
- 3 Recording Mode: Fine REC, Long REC, Long VOX
- Up to 64 hours of high quality WAV format voice recording and up to 288 hours of ACT format voice recording

EBOOK FUNCTION
E-Book Function:Support txt Format files.
Phone book support.

Specifications:

-2.6 inch 16000K Color TFT LCD 16:9
-Internal Memory: 4GB
-External Memory: Micro SD (TF) Card (up to 4gb extra, 8gb total)
-Video Resolution: 400 X 240
-FPS (Frames per Second): 35
-Built-in lithium battery
-USB: 2.0
-System: Windows 98, 2000, XP, Vista
-Dimension: 88x50x13mm (LxWxD)
-Support 16 Languages: English, Simple Chinese, Trad Chinese, Japanese, Korean, French, German, Italian, Dutch, Portuguese, Spanish, Swedish, Czech, Polish, Russian, Turkish.
-Signal/Noise Ratio: 90db.

image or link to original store please

need to see the player

thanks

thanks

for a start the specs you gave dont match the image in the link

does your player have screw on the side of the player body, i am assuming your player does not look exactly like this and the specs on the site, if your player is like this are wrong

if theplayer is like the one shown then it will support these formats only

RM, RMVB, AVI, FLV

not al those listed, they are specs for another type of chip used in chinese player

what are the video you are trying to load and what are there settings

try search and download gspot to examine your files

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I am going to see about returning this item to the seller as there are too many problems to solve.....I plug in first and my system picks up a virus, that it cleans...then need to reboot to get the thing to read in computer.

Then files I cannot delete that return with 0kb and say they are corrupt...i try to remove with my unlocker...occasionally can remove thru deleting thru the player...touch and go, on and off....video that wont play...etc.

Yes the player I have is the same in the picture with screws on side...and I have tried to load the avi, flash as they come from youtube and using converter to make smaller to mp4 file ...nothing works. I downloaded what you suggested? Not sure how to use it at this stage to resolve issues...which are overwhelming me as I have spent hours figuring out how to use this Chinese player.

I must have a lemon.

Cheers

Alana

Thanks for your assistance...I decided to courier the player back to the seller tomorrow and to do my research before buying a good player again.

I would appreciate any suggestions you or anyone here may have...best buy, easy functions and easy to load on vids and music, etc. I still would at some stage appreciate to buy a player that has a large screen and large storage capacity....thanks....

Cheers

Alana

I have just recieved a player today that sounds like yours with a 3" screen, (looks like the Onda 747).

First impressions besides looking like it is a used player with scrartches on the screen.

Is not recognized by USB port.

Managed to get it recognized once for about 20 seconds, long enough to try and load a video, started to load and then was not recognized again before the file was finished, resulting in "file format error".

Player arrived with no life in battery, it has now been on charge for 4 hours with only 1/3 life showing on the battery meter.

No file can be deleted on player, I tried to delete my unfinished download but there doeasnt appear to be any way to do this. I even tried to delete one of the songs that came with the player and the X tab on the player does not work.

Firmware seems to be unfinished.

Touchscreen is unresponsive.

Nothing on the CD that came with player will unload onto my PC, in other words its a totally useless waste of disk.

I have just Emailed the seller and awaiting a response, but already hace another one of these players arriving in the next few days from the same seller...Oh dear..Doom

On the plus side the Video and Audio that came pre-installed looked and sounded pretty good, so aside from the scratches I think this player needs a serious firmware upgrade to sort all its problems out.

Ok, Ive had 24 hours to try and get this player working and it is!

The Importance of using good leads.

Its been said many times here to try a different lead, yesterday I didnt have another lead to try with the player but as I could use another player with no problems with the same lead (somehow managed to lose the original lead for this player so its been sitting in the draw for over a week) I wrongly assumed that it must be the player at fault and not the lead.

I think the tolerances on the USB sockets in theses players are not all the same, infact I now know they are not.

I had a couple more different players arrive this morning and thought I would try a different lead from one of these players on the MP5,, low and behold it worked. So if anyone reckons its not the lead because it works for something else, think again and keep 2-3 leads handy.

Right, next point regarding Kiwimagics problem of not playing videos.

I have found so far that the player will only play videos that have been directly ripped from dvd and in the little yellow windows file that I send to my desktop when ripping. The file Icon with Windows media player on, although it is Avi does not play, I dont know why because as far as Im aware they are the same files accept maybe labelled differently. Im going to play around with this today, so I,ll let you know more as I find out.

The picture can be very dark and the colours are a bit too strong so I will try and sort that out by ripping with Vidrop and changing the parameters, other than that the lip sync stays ok although I do notice once in a while a skipped frame but nothing like as bad as the Rockchip 320x 240 mp4 players, its probably only noticable to me because im really looking for it.

If your thinking of getting one of these players just hang on a few days till Ive had time to really play about with it and find all its bugs.

Heres a quickie for you, the audio on this player is top notch, this player has a seriously good sound, far better than the Onda v85 clones which use another Rockchip as far as Im aware.

The sound is detailed with a tight but full base, if you mainly listen to music then this player does rock, I would like to see how it sounds with good quality ear buds, as it is with the cheap chineese buds it still sounds pretty dam good. Very impressed with Audio at least so far.

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Hi Hawk,

What is the name of the player that you re referring to? Do you have a link to info about it, as I would like to look into it. I have returned the other player because frankly there were too many issues, and my sense is that it was indeed defective.

I am on the hunt for a dependable and easy to work with player, with as big of a screen as possible and high quality sound. The music is most important and the videos of course are a major plus too or wouldn't be investing in a mp4-5 player... :)

Thanks...

Regards

Alana in NZ

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I have a clone of this player-

http://mp4nation.net/catalog/index.p...roducts_id=129

I did not buy from the vendor in the image/link.

Having played around with this player for a few days I would say it is a big improvement over the MP4 players I have used so far, it is so easy to copy a DVD and transfer straight over to the player with no worries about skipping and lip sync problems. I have ripped DVDs without even looking at the output resolutions or audio and the file loads straight away.

A copy of shrek plays really well on this player, I would say the animated films are perfect for the machine, other people who have seen and heard the film playing were equally impressed.
The video is pretty close to the 320x240 rockchip AVI players but without any of the issues that come with these players.

Watching Saw4 was a really imersive experience with some pretty jumpy moments and that I should add is from someone that doesnt really jump much when watching a film. The sound quality definately plays its part here.

Having said all that, the player has to go back because I have been sent a used player with a dudd battery that only lasts 1 hour after a 8 hour charge, I should be getting another in a day or 2 so I should see what the players like with a good battery.

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Well, my other player arrived today (same model, same vendor) and he has sent me another factory misfit/return. This one has quite clearly been opened, you can see marks around the edges and some deformation of the casing, the innards are loose and rattle about and the screen has scratches on the surface which have been put there deliberatel by the looks of it (they are criss crossed and one diagonal). I think the factory must do this to prevent them being re-sold by employees, thats my theory anyway, I cant see any other explanation.

I will purchase the same model again from a different vendor as I really like this player now, assuming everything was new and fully functional.

Ok, I also had a few more arrive today, they are clones of the Ramos 970, which is a good little player.

These are the exact same barring the Ramos name, they use the same chip, come with the same pre-loaded videos and photos. Even the user manual tells you the firmware is ramos970.

The video is superb, I was blown away with the demo video, it is crystal clear, sharp and smooth. Theres always a but though, the video I have transfered is very dark on this player so Im messing about with different brightness levels at the moment. Also the player doesnt seem to re-size to full screen automatically, although it will play them just as easy as the other model.

Sound is again top notch. So far Ive been impressed considering the bargain basement price.

Ill keep you posted.

where are yyou getting these player and is the ramos got screws on the side???

also the clone vx747 player may actually be rockchip as this has been found now and not the same chip as onda players

the interface is slightly different

makd511.

I am buying the players from different ebayers and also some other places, I am trying to find the most reliable sources at the moment.

You are right, the 747 clone does use the rockchip as does the ramos clone, but then again the ramos uses the rockchip anyway, which isnt a bad thing for either player.

Also, the firmware is slightly different.

I have discovered the ramos clone also uses microsoft fx in the audio, the player Im using has 4 screws around the casing. There will be some differences, the most obvious in the firmware (even though the manual states Ramos970 firmware can be used, I wouldnt like to try it).
The harware looks identical.

yep, the ramos firmware wont work on the ones with screws on, and is it also a 2.8" screen as opposed to 3"

all new rockchips have playFX as standard now and is quite good

also i have a ramos rm970 and i tried to brick it with firmware from one of those players you have and it did not do so, so may be hard to actually load wrong firmware on the new rockchip players

also its possible to extract the firmware from these players by a button combination or addition of a small file

Do you know where the information is for the firmware extraction, always handy to have the information on ready.

Also have you opened one of these players up and if so is it an easy job, meaning it didnt damage the players casing at all.

If the firmware can be extracted, will this mean we could start seeing mods for the players, Im not too clued up about these knd of things.

yes

on the ramos to get at the firmware you #

turn player off
hold down the"M" button
keep holding M button whilst plugging into pc
wait for PC to recognize player (if all is well)

if it worked you will see 2 drives, one is a hidden partitiion in which all the firmware files are stored DO NOT DELETE THEM
there are several folder, one file in resources called BMP0 holds all the images and with the rkuiedit tool we can see and replace them all to ake custom themes

also we have already been modding the ramos and more over on mp4nation.net forums, lots of work done over there, i am maderin1 on that forum should you visit

i have not opened ramos as it has no screews on the case, so its held by internal clips, but your has screws so may be easier, but be carefiul not to pull any cables out

Thanks for the info macd511,

Unfortunately it doesnt work on my "screw in the sides" player.
I took at look at mp4nation regarding the modding but not seen anything about modding my bogus player yet, Ill keep looking and to be honest untill I hear of anyone being suscesfull with my version I would be worried about attempting to change/mod the firmware although Im sure it could be fun.

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hi

there is a way to get at the partition, we have a user on mp4nation with a rockchip vx747 and this worked for them, and should work for all new rockchip rk27 series players

download this file first
]rkusb tag and rkui editor files

now in there you will find a file called "rkusb.tag"
copy this to the root of the player
disconnect the player from machine
re connect the player

windows should then find an extra drive on the player, ahave a look in there and you will see several folders like "APPDATA". "RESOURCES" etc

first off, copy them all to make a backup
then look for the file called BMP0.BIN, this is where all the images are stored

now in the download was an editor that allows you to view and replace images in the nBMP0 file, just load up the file and find the images you want to replace, get the size and create 32bit BMP images of the same size and replace

once done repeat the method to access the hidden partition and copy the BMP0.BIN file over the original


let me know if it works

makd511

Unfortunately this didnt work, I can see the other drive in the player but the PC just tells me to load a disk into. I cant actually open it.

Dont think Im doing anything wrong.

I connected player, double clicked my computer, opened the drive up (it actually shows 2 drives when I connect the player but only 1 can be opened) and dropped the "rkusb.tag" into the drive along with the other programs in there, then followed the rest of instructions.

Ill try again on another player.

mmm

i think it should work, 2 drives is one internal mem and the other will be the SD card, if no sd card then no access

which player did you try it on

did you do a safe disconnect and r u on XP or vists, XP works not sure about vista

I did the safe disconnect and Im using XP, the player is the 4 screws 3" avi rmvb Ramos lookalike, Rockchip 2706.

Heres exactly what I did -

Connected player, opened "my computer".
Opened "removable disk f"
Now I have all the files that are loaded on the player including videos, songs, photos etc, I then drop "rkusb.tag" into this lot and then do a safe disconnect.
Then re-connect, go to "my computer" and click on "removable disk f" and nothing has changed.

I also try doing all the above but when I open the disk drive F and see the programs, I double click the top file "in chineese", open this file up and see all the pre-loaded videos etc, I drop "rkusb.tag" into here and safe disconnect then re-connect.

When I enter the chineese file, should I then be opening any other file to drop rkusb.tag into?

I notice theres an LRC file?? in here, that needs a program of the web to open it.

On another note, the battery life on these when fully charged is 2 hours 20 minutes when Im watching videos, dont know what it is yet with music.

besides "F" are there any more drives appearing in windows, look for other drives (i am sure you have :) )

we had a guy on mp4nation with a rockchip vx747 clone and this worked for them, now they are happily modding

battery is low, but par for the course on the types of clone players

lrc file are just text files, open them with note pad, they are lyric files that are linked to an mp3 file, shows song lyrics as it plays

Thanks for your time macd511,

I just tried it on a 747 clone as well and I still get nothing, no extra drives, maybe its just dependant on whos particular firmware is installed. Nice try though.

Finally!

The button holding while conecting worked, windows recognized another drive but when I tried to open this I got a message saying I couldnt access it so I right clicked and clicked explore and now Im in.

Just backed the drive up and now onto the fun part.

Thank you.

good stuff, well done
i was hoping it would work, now that is several rockchip players this works on, so it should be standard for one method or another

biggest problem with the older rockchips was the fact that unbranded players could not get their firmware off the player, and so people tried firmwares from players that "looked" like theirs and broke them

thanks for persisting with this

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Wow, thanks makd511,

Never thought I would be able to do it, I updated 1 of 8 desktop settings with some crappy picture just to see if I could :D

So now Im working a full Bladerunner theme.

Ill keep you posted, after working on the artwork I will have a go at the more complex stuff (scrolling icons and fonts if its possible).

Its something else to keep me busy.

good stuff, post some images when done

BTW, how much were these vx style players, need new one for my kid and touch scren would be good, prefer ingenics one bt if the orice is right

cheers

oh, and what mem size

Cheapest Ive seen is $58 or about £30 for 4GB and $73 or about £38 from Tinydeal.

I didnt buy the 747 clones from there though (wish I had), mine were from ebay seller and looked like factory re-furbs.

As far as I can tell the postage is thrown in with the price.

Im going to buy some from there in a couple of weeks so Ill let you know what there like if you havent already bought one by then.

what are the fonts like

i have a set of fonts from a re branded rm970 player and have sucesfully transfered them to other rockchip players, they are much nicer

see here for example

http://www.mp4nation.net/forum/viewt...ilit=pentagram

I tried putting that in the root and wasnt suscefull, is there a way to change the fonts ( video icon, music icon etc) on my player.

I cant seem to get at any of the icons, only the backgrounds so far, like the welcome screen, desktops, charging screen, usb connect screen and goodbye screen.

If it was possible to change the icons then that would make a huge difference.

The icons on the ramos clone are quite large and not at all impressive.

on the image viewer/replace tool you will see the first selection of "320x240", click on ths to see al the images smaller than this size, they are there i promose

Right, I got them.

I notice all the video/music/radio icons etc, are on a pink background ( though this doesnt show when on the player), if I were to load new images, do I have to load them on the same pink backround?

Oh, bye the way, I appreciate all the help your supplying here, Ive put you on my Christmas card list.

In the meantime Im off to find some new icons.

Thanks makd511.

the pink is used a transparent color, so anything pink will be transparent on the player - solid pink though, not a true alpha channel at all, so no fading blends into the pink or it wont work, and images are supposed to be 32 bit BMP images, but 24 should be ok

have a wizz at this site for ipod themes, they come with full sets of png icons you can adapt and use, maybe

http://www.ipod-touch-themes.de/

remember to post your end results :)

good luck

and BTW dont be put off by all the images in the firmware, rockchip are seriously bad at housekeeping and 50% of the images are for other players UI`s!!!!!

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Oh dear,

Think Ive opened a can of worms with this.

Ive scrapped the Bladrunner theme and nearly finished a simple but (I think) effective theme. I struggled to get the icons I wanted and tried making my own.

I have now just discovered Paint.net and reckon Ill be able to do most of the stuff I want, theres not enough time in the day.

You could be waiting a while to see this one.

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Hello guys,
I need your help on this,
I read you both have ramos rm970 clone and i badly need that firmware you extracted from the player.
I have 2 of these(with the screws)and in the firmware there is not the playfx feature.
So if it is possible to upload them here for us to download would be heaven :)
Or you can add me into msn : jimmysdem@zapo.net
and skype : demetris_i
Thanks in advance for the help

demetris, i have an orignal rm970 so i can not help here as the ramos firmware wont work on these copy players

i also need copies of those fles for a user on my other forum, so Hawk can you please upload them as soon as possible

if you are wanting to try someting a chinese company called yoto have a model called the m300, looks to be same style as these with screews on the side also and they have a new firmware for download

th link is here if you facny giving it a bash

http://www.yoto-cn.com/download.asp

look for the one called m300, site is chinese but no problems

also its a ig firmware, think it has a few games in

no gaurentees it will work and i have a feeling the 60meg partition may not be big enough

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Thanks for the info,
I already tried that but doesnt work!
It whitens the screen when it starts the update and player is d.e.a.d! :)
So i need the firmware from an already fuctional player.

Hawk is the only one that can help me out.
Also i have managed to put m400 firmware on it but has not playfx also :)
They have release a new firmware now but i couldnt put it on my player as the standalone firmware dont work as a stanalone from the player you have to put it on the player with a tool they provide but i didnt figured out yet how!
If you download the 11.7.2008 firmware update of M400 you will find out what i am talking about!
So hawk will you help me out on this?
Please i need your firmware,
Thanks again for all

surprisd the m400 worked and also surprised at no PlayFX settings

you have probably tried this by have you renamed the "RK27SDK.RKW" to setup.rkw and seeing if that works, put it on the main memory not 60 meg drive and disconnect

else, what about splitting the files into separate parts and copying them directly to the 60 meg partition

hi,
I have put it on the player as rk27sdk.rkw and setup.rkw and is not update the player, i dont know why but it shutdowns the player and i need to reset it to be put back to life, the on button dont work but when back is the same old firmware it was no changes so is harmless to try but in the update archive they provide a utility name rk27dm.exe, when opened i see update manager v1.2.1 also i have a *.pdf but all in chinese :(
How i split the files of the firmware? is there a way to extract the *.rkw?
If there is am sure m300 will fit perfectly if extracted and if i found out by alteans how to use the tool i will be able to put m300 firmware on it by resizing the fat partition.
Thanks for the help btw