Itchee/Rizone microSD/TF Card support

Sharebear · #1 (**permalink**) 23rd Jul 2009, 6:58 am

I have 2 Rizone players that I have reformatted to 4GB. I would like to get back some of the lost space. I was wondering what microSD card is supported in this player. I had one seller tell me it would support up to 16GB microSD/TF card. My second seller just eMailed me back and said that it could only support a 4GB TF card. Another user on this site stated that he got his working with a 4GB microSD SDHC card. Anyone know exactly how large of a microSD card that this player will support and if it does support SDHC what revisions of SDHC it can support. I notice there are revision 2 to 6 of SDHC cards floating around out there. From what I understand, if it supports 4GB it has to be HC compatible. If it is HC compatible it should be able to take any size SDHC card availabe ie. up to 16GB. If anyone has any information regarding the exact specifications of what this player can support I would really appreciate it.

Ok from what I've read from SDA(Secure Data Association) Verison 1.0-1.1 was standard SD cards of which there are some that are up to 2GB. anything bigger is SDHC. SDHC is Version 2.0 and has Classes of 2,4, or 6. The internal controller on the Rizone is a 16GB controller with only a 4GB internal Flash Drive soldered into it. If I am not mistaken this is the same controller that runs the microSD slot. So the unit should support at least a 16GB SDHC card. What we don't know is the Class or speed of the controller. If it is a Class 4 controller it will only accept SDHC class 2 and 4. When copying to the unit I get write speeds of around 4Mb/s so the internal 4GB chip should be class 4, but that doesn't necessarily mean that the internal Flash Drive controller can't run a class 6 SDHC microSD card. If anyone can tell the speed of this controller from the info and internal pics supplied on this forum, would you please enlighten us...??? Also if any of my logic is flawed, please let me know. SDA specifications seem to be way too unnecessarily confusing.

Sharebear · #2 (**permalink**) 23rd Jul 2009, 7:22 pm

I've tried a 4GB micro SCHC card and it did fine. However, after about a week, the unit quit keeping a charge. When I charge it, it will say it is full. But, when not connected to the PC via USB, it shows low battery and and will not play. It seems to be going downhill. I player will now only work connected to the PC. Virtually useless now, since I can do the same thing on my PC.

Sharebear · #3 (**permalink**) 23rd Jul 2009, 7:25 pm

I tried using a 1GB micro SD card and it works. It seems a bit sluggish though then browsing, so I don't know how a 16GB micro SD card would work IF it would work at all.

Sharebear · #4 (**permalink**) 23rd Jul 2009, 7:26 pm

I have tried using a sandisk 4GB micro SDHC card but the player just shows "card init fail". (card works ok with other devices)

Looks like it will only work with SD cards and not SDHC.

I have only seen 2GB micro SD cards for sale, nothing larger. They are pretty cheep but I will need some kind of wallet to keep them in.

It's a shame some idiot decided to mess around with the firmware.
I received a partial refund from the seller so I have a 1.7GB player which has only cost me £5.00
Can't complain too much.

Grimsqueeker · #5 (**permalink**) 24th Jul 2009, 4:19 am

My card is a Class 2 which did not work.

Sharebear · #6 (**permalink**) 26th Jul 2009, 8:26 pm

From what I have read, even though Sandisk created the tf/microsd card, they do not have the best controller on the card. They make one version of the microSD SDHC card that works with most mp3 players, they make one that works with most cameras, they make one that works with most cell phones, and they even make another that works only with the Blackberry. It supposedly is because their cards do not autosense what is needed. One card is set for 1 bit mode, another is set for 4 bit mode, and another is set for SPI mode. Kingston cards however, have all modes enabled and autosense what is needed by the device and are more universally accepted. You can look up the user reviews in Amazon and see what I am talking about.

Unless the user/member rizone32gb is lying, someone has gotten this unit working with a 4GB SDHC card. The forum member (rizone32gb) did not, however, mention the brand of card or the class/speed of the 4GB card that he has working with his Rizone Player.

Sharebear · #7 (**permalink**) 27th Jul 2009, 9:13 am

Hi all. I got word back from my seller, who talked to the manufacturer. . . The unit has been tested and supposedly works with the Kingston 4GB Class4 MicroSD SDHC card. He said the manufacturer was unsure if the unit would support higher than 4GB and it will not support speeds higher than class 4. I have a Kingston 4GB class4 as well as a kingston 2GB TF on order and will give everyone an update as to if and how well the 2 cards work with the Rizone Players that I have.

yadayada · #8 (**permalink**) 18th Oct 2009, 10:39 am

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Originally Posted by Sharebear

Hi all. I got word back from my seller, who talked to the manufacturer. . . The unit has been tested and supposedly works with the Kingston 4GB Class4 MicroSD SDHC card. He said the manufacturer was unsure if the unit would support higher than 4GB and it will not support speeds higher than class 4. I have a Kingston 4GB class4 as well as a kingston 2GB TF on order and will give everyone an update as to if and how well the 2 cards work with the Rizone Players that I have.

Manage to get an SD card working in your mp3 player?

swift110 · #9 (**permalink**) 3rd Nov 2009, 6:55 pm

is there a difference between ristar and itchee

zhangfei · #10 (**permalink**) 21st Nov 2009, 10:39 am

A 16GB microSDHC (Sandisk, unknown speed class) card works fine in my Rizone player.